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posted: 2025-05-03 08:51:32 (ID: 100191036)  Edits found: 4 Report Abuse
@Uatsh... Utschn... ( - just kidding, I know how to copy-paste, just pointing to the fact that your nick is quite a challenge to spell, for me )
@Uaschitschun - while it is true that there are no direct ways to expel a country from the EU (and I think we both think of one in particular), there are indirect options, which could achieve just that. It would cause some problems in a short run, definitely, also extra costs, but may be it is better that way, because it prevents removing a country without true reason for it - while the tools are still there, if really needed.
Having said that, I personally think that one of those options, creating a new EU, under any name, in a long run would be beneficial. At least until the situation on the eastern flank of the bloc is more secure. More than that - I think even an informal _threat_ of such move might work and make the transition no longer neccessary.
The fact that there is absolutely nothing of that sort (unless I missed it), tells me personally, that the negatives of expelling the country I am thinking about would at least match the positives. Holes in the whole have this interesting feature, that they don't like to remain holes - and they often fill with the last what we'd like them to fill with. At least that's how I understand why the EU prefers to hope that sooner or later there will be a change of the inner situation, rather than to act. Personally I think they might buy themselves a large supply of popcorn, while they wait for it. But that's just me.

@Dumbarajko - sorry for a post very far from the original issue

ps. Actually I think there was something "cooking", regarding the informal threat, in the EU. But the problem with EU is that it usually takes time with everything. And I think that gave the time for the leader of one of the EU countries to do the preemptive strike - he himself mentioned informally, that they themselves might consider leaving the EU. In my view, that was one heck of a smart move (aside from the negative feelings I generally have regarding that particular leader). The sting of the informal threat would hit by far less than it could have, and I am afraid it would be too late for it now.

ps.ps. Sorry for the metaphores, which might not be easy to read at least for those of you further from Europe. To get my point about holes filling with something, draw a map of Europe painting NATO in one colour, say green, the major NATO enemy, whoever that might be ( ), with a contrasting colour, say red. And then redraw the countries which seem to oppose the major trend in the EU painting them with stripes of the shade of red. Keep in mind that you don't have to limit yourself to just one "hole". Look at its neighbours on the map. Then look at the potential allies of that colour even further west. And also at the countries were the threat of changing the colour was quite significant, until EU paid attention to it. Paid attention - for now. But I wouldn't be so sure in a long run, especially if the situation nearby changes.
The shape of the green doesn't look too good anymore, does it.

Last edited on 2025-05-03 09:24:26 by jpnwrt

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