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4 Aces
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posted: 2022-01-26 21:35:58 (ID: 100164743) Edits found: 2 Report Abuse |
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Let me preface my rantings by saying I thoroughly enjoy what has been created here. I seem to enjoy tinkering with the playbook as well as the expectations of training. I have followed every one of my games play by play & take notes, I've watched many games not my own but those of powerhouse teams again taking notes. With that said I have read in the manuals (RZC & RZA) and at one point there was a salary cap in place (to me it's vital to be a simulation & not just a fantasy game). With a cap in place the winningest team is on the same field as the worst team meaning it's in the manager (training choices, play calling, positioning of players & so on) that the games are won or lost not just monies spent but monies spent wisely. Without a salary cap it becomes much less a simulation but more a fantasy game. Superman teams that go undefeated season after season (is that simulation ? or fantasy ?) using teams with smaller venues as nothing more than cannon fodder. I think this is very discouraging to newer players since the field is tilted so badly. I read where an above average TE was going for 27 million ! Again I have to ask is that closer to a simulation or a fantasy game since under a cap you wouldn't just be able to buy all the best at very unrealistic prices. I also understand those with advantage seldom if ever surrender their advantage no matter how unrealistic that might be. I would very much like to see RZA return to it's simulation roots & leave the fantasy games behind.
 One last edit ... I wonder why the roster is limited to 70 ? The salary cap & roster limits as well as dept chart limits are all suppose to serve the same purpose, a level playing field. why discard one and not the others ? Simulation should be simulation & fantasy should be fantasy. Last edited on 2022-01-26 22:01:31 by 4 Aces |
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| posted: 2022-01-26 22:01:56 (ID: 100164744) Report Abuse | |
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Just a point of clarification, as I don't have any strong feelings one way or the other. But that 27 million for the TE would have happened regardless of a salary cap because that was just a purchase of a player off the transfer market. After the player is bought, then the player's salary (not the 27 mil) would count against the salary cap.
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4 Aces
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posted: 2022-01-26 22:12:04 (ID: 100164745) Edits found: 1 Report Abuse |
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That my friend is a very good point. But without a cap how many of those highly paid players could one accumulate ? As it seems to be now a manager could have a 'superman' at every position.
Point of interest: You my friend were the very first point of contact for me in RZA & I find myself paying attention to your team. Good luck ! Last edited on 2022-01-26 22:17:24 by 4 Aces |
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| posted: 2022-01-26 22:35:44 (ID: 100164748) Report Abuse | |
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I think I can answer. You do get to a point where your salaries of players is so high you can't afford to have a superman at every position. You can save up and make a run for a few season with an amazing team but eventually you'd have to scale back or go in the red. In addition a lot of the really good teams don't have as many super human players as you would think. Bottom line, a team cannot for any significant time buy/build a complete set if starters on both sides of the ball that are all maxed and can afford it.
That TE made no sense. It was an aberration and really felt weird that it went for so much. I have gotten comparable ones for less than a million. That transaction felt.....a little off. Didn't add up and only those bidding k on why they bid as much as they did. |
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| posted: 2022-01-26 22:49:54 (ID: 100164750) Report Abuse | |
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4 Aces wrote:
That my friend is a very good point. But without a cap how many of those highly paid players could one accumulate ? As it seems to be now a manager could have a 'superman' at every position. Point of interest: You my friend were the very first point of contact for me in RZA & I find myself paying attention to your team. Good luck ! Last two seasons in Elite we had a couple of Superman teams. Did they won the Elite title in those two years? NO!!! So yes you can have a extra extra extra strong team, but that does not mean that you will get trophies for sure. People Republic of Yorkshire showed to RZA community that with a team salary below 4 millions you can be in two Elite superbowls in a row and win a second one. |
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| posted: 2022-01-26 22:58:20 (ID: 100164751) Report Abuse | |
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You're thinking with a US-centric point of view on everything. This is a euro game based on euro leagues. The only format that's US is the league and playoff structure.
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4 Aces
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posted: 2022-01-26 23:27:14 (ID: 100164753) Report Abuse |
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I'll responded to the last two post in this one message.
The fact that could even be a 'Superman' team doesn't bother you ? Of course buying a team may not lead to championships but I bet they didn't lose a lot of games & not many down years to 'rebuild'. There is of course a chance element to any sporting game. Having the best players may not lead to championships but it certainly gives advantage. Concerning my American-centric thinking on a salary cap. As far as I can tell Europeon football has a salary cap in place to this day. Also the very creators RZA & RZC started these sites with a salary cap in place as written in the manuals for both games. So are the European creators of RZA also American-centric ? I think not. Again IT'S IN THE MANUALS ! So how is where I'm from have any bearing on my thoughts of the rules as they are written ? I really try to make my posts well thought out to make sense ... maybe you should also instead of just trying to dismiss some ones thoughts. Once again IT'S IN THE MANUALS written by Europeans for Europeans. |
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| posted: 2022-01-26 23:36:37 (ID: 100164754) Report Abuse | |
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4 Aces wrote:
The fact that could even be a 'Superman' team doesn't bother you ? Of course buying a team may not lead to championships but I bet they didn't lose a lot of games & not many down years to 'rebuild'. There is of course a chance element to any sporting game. Having the best players may not lead to championships but it certainly gives advantage. Where are you getting this idea of "buying a team?" |
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4 Aces
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posted: 2022-01-26 23:45:15 (ID: 100164755) Report Abuse |
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ablefty33 wrote:
4 Aces wrote:
The fact that could even be a 'Superman' team doesn't bother you ? Of course buying a team may not lead to championships but I bet they didn't lose a lot of games & not many down years to 'rebuild'. There is of course a chance element to any sporting game. Having the best players may not lead to championships but it certainly gives advantage. Where are you getting this idea of "buying a team?" Without a salary cap in place to level the playing field between all teams one manager can simply spend almost any amount on players of important positions without concern. With a cap the 'supermen' players with of course higher salaries would necessitate spending less for other positions. That's what I mean by buying a team, not much skill involved there just money to spend. With a cap all the skills a manager may or may not have reveals itself. |
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posted: 2022-01-26 23:47:52 (ID: 100164756) Report Abuse |
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And no cap brings in financial skill. Judging even more skills = bonus.
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