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| posted: 2022-01-26 23:52:43 (ID: 100164757) Report Abuse | |
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4 Aces wrote:
Concerning my American-centric thinking on a salary cap. As far as I can tell Europeon football has a salary cap in place to this day. Also the very creators RZA & RZC started these sites with a salary cap in place as written in the manuals for both games. So are the European creators of RZA also American-centric ? I think not. Again IT'S IN THE MANUALS ! So how is where I'm from have any bearing on my thoughts of the rules as they are written ? I really try to make my posts well thought out to make sense ... maybe you should also instead of just trying to dismiss some ones thoughts. Once again IT'S IN THE MANUALS written by Europeans for Europeans. European football absolutely has no salary cap and I can't imagine it will ever be implemented. Euro football is all about super teams.... They have teams dominate and spend a ton more than the smaller teams. Manchester United has won almost as much as all other teams combined! So I'm not sure you would throw a tantrum scream at me about reading manuals (which I would love to see the part that states a salary cap in RZA, because I was unable to find it) when I was trying to open up your views on why some things exist the way they do. If you want a salary cap and more instant competitiveness NFL-style, clash exists. If you want more of a long term management game, well here we are. Whatever you decide, don't yell at me. |
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posted: 2022-01-27 00:07:30 (ID: 100164758) Report Abuse |
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pderekdactyl wrote:
And no cap brings in financial skill. Judging even more skills = bonus. Financial skill was already brought into the game at it's creation with a cap part of the rules. Without a cap it becomes a fantasy game not a simulation, If one hangs around the stage door long enough they eventually sneak in. In my original post I mentioned human nature being what it is that those with advantage seldom if ever give the advantage up willingly. I see all these comments but not a single counter argument in support of no cap. I have layed my thoughts out but yet no one counters these thoughts. I think it shows there is no true reason for no cap except saving ones advantage because they know it is an advantage. In all sports competition a level playing field is expected & demanded. I guess the one must decide does one want to play a simulation or a fantasy game. |
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posted: 2022-01-27 00:16:39 (ID: 100164759) Report Abuse |
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Rufio13 wrote:
4 Aces wrote:
Concerning my American-centric thinking on a salary cap. As far as I can tell Europeon football has a salary cap in place to this day. Also the very creators RZA & RZC started these sites with a salary cap in place as written in the manuals for both games. So are the European creators of RZA also American-centric ? I think not. Again IT'S IN THE MANUALS ! So how is where I'm from have any bearing on my thoughts of the rules as they are written ? I really try to make my posts well thought out to make sense ... maybe you should also instead of just trying to dismiss some ones thoughts. Once again IT'S IN THE MANUALS written by Europeans for Europeans. European football absolutely has no salary cap and I can't imagine it will ever be implemented. Euro football is all about super teams.... They have teams dominate and spend a ton more than the smaller teams. Manchester United has won almost as much as all other teams combined! So I'm not sure you would throw a tantrum scream at me about reading manuals (which I would love to see the part that states a salary cap in RZA, because I was unable to find it) when I was trying to open up your views on why some things exist the way they do. If you want a salary cap and more instant competitiveness NFL-style, clash exists. If you want more of a long term management game, well here we are. Whatever you decide, don't yell at me. Do forgive me for your perceived yelling at you. I forget youngsters somehow equate text to speech, my bad & apologies. Manchester United ? Far as I can tell they are not a team in the Europeon American football league https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/European_League_of_Football |
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| posted: 2022-01-27 00:22:30 (ID: 100164760) Report Abuse | |
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4 Aces wrote:
ablefty33 wrote:
4 Aces wrote:
The fact that could even be a 'Superman' team doesn't bother you ? Of course buying a team may not lead to championships but I bet they didn't lose a lot of games & not many down years to 'rebuild'. There is of course a chance element to any sporting game. Having the best players may not lead to championships but it certainly gives advantage. Where are you getting this idea of "buying a team?" Without a salary cap in place to level the playing field between all teams one manager can simply spend almost any amount on players of important positions without concern. With a cap the 'supermen' players with of course higher salaries would necessitate spending less for other positions. That's what I mean by buying a team, not much skill involved there just money to spend. With a cap all the skills a manager may or may not have reveals itself. This is still not "buying a team." Play the game for a while, this just sounds like a lack of experience and perspective. Really good players are developed, strong teams are built, not bought. |
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| posted: 2022-01-27 00:31:09 (ID: 100164761) Report Abuse | |
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4 Aces wrote:
Do forgive me for your perceived yelling at you. I forget youngsters somehow equate text to speech, my bad & apologies. Manchester United ? Far as I can tell they are not a team in the Europeon American football league https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/European_League_of_Football Ah good, he's going with the 'old dense condescending guy' bit. Sincerity goes a long way old man, you should have learned that by now. You think there's nothing but kids playing this? What about the appearance of this site/game screams whippersnappers on your lawn? If this game was modeled after the European American football league it wouldn't have existed until last season and be capped at like 10 teams. Does it have promotion/relegation? Is there a world cup? Youth teams? All it's missing is putting players on loan and we might as well call Elite league the Premier league. Building up a team and working your way in as a contender is absolutely the most fun for many managers and that success is a reward for those who can manage a long term team. Isn't instant gratification a youngster thing? |
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posted: 2022-01-27 00:36:29 (ID: 100164762) Report Abuse |
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I didn't know I was opening such a can of worms here.
I have put out my arguments for a salary cap. Can anyone please give me counter points to having a salary cap. That seems fairly simple to me but yet have received none. 1) More competitive games. 2) a level playing field for all teams 3) A level playing field is a three legged stool, salary cap, limited to 70 players a team, limited dept chart. If your missing one why have the other 2 ? 4) growing the game by retaining new players. All that's needed are counter points ... Not dismissiveness, not arguments, not because I don't want to lose my advantage ... Just good sound counter points |
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| posted: 2022-01-27 00:49:57 (ID: 100164763) Report Abuse | |
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4 Aces wrote:
I didn't know I was opening such a can of worms here. I have put out my arguments for a salary cap. Can anyone please give me counter points to having a salary cap. That seems fairly simple to me but yet have received none. 1) More competitive games. 2) a level playing field for all teams 3) A level playing field is a three legged stool, salary cap, limited to 70 players a team, limited dept chart. If your missing one why have the other 2 ? 4) growing the game by retaining new players. All that's needed are counter points ... Not dismissiveness, not arguments, not because I don't want to lose my advantage ... Just good sound counter points Your arguments don't really make sense because they sound like you've been playing for a month. The playing field is level for all teams. Have some patience, learn the game. There aren't "superman" players, or bought teams. Anyone who has an advantage to lose has built it and earned it. |
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posted: 2022-01-27 00:56:05 (ID: 100164764) Report Abuse |
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ablefty33 wrote:
4 Aces wrote:
I didn't know I was opening such a can of worms here. I have put out my arguments for a salary cap. Can anyone please give me counter points to having a salary cap. That seems fairly simple to me but yet have received none. 1) More competitive games. 2) a level playing field for all teams 3) A level playing field is a three legged stool, salary cap, limited to 70 players a team, limited dept chart. If your missing one why have the other 2 ? 4) growing the game by retaining new players. All that's needed are counter points ... Not dismissiveness, not arguments, not because I don't want to lose my advantage ... Just good sound counter points Your arguments don't really make sense because they sound like you've been playing for a month. The playing field is level for all teams. Have some patience, learn the game. There aren't "superman" players, or bought teams. Anyone who has an advantage to lose has built it and earned it. Once again no counter point just a dismissive post. Please give me your sound counter points. |
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posted: 2022-01-27 00:57:32 (ID: 100164765) Report Abuse |
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According to a 2017 RZA poll concerning strict salary caps most players agree with a 10.5 million weekly cap.
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posted: 2022-01-27 01:01:16 (ID: 100164766) Report Abuse |
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Lets forget about the salary cap for a moment if we can ...
Please explain to me why teams are limited to a 70 man roster ? And then please explain to me why dept charts are limited to 55 players ? |
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