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BlindLark
posted: 2022-07-29 20:48:12 (ID: 100168303) Report Abuse
jpnwrt wrote:
Thank you!
So it's both - the player must be of the type compatible with the AC, AND the skill trained of the type used by the position assigned to that AC type?


Correct.

jpnwrt wrote:
Q: If I reposition that OL player as a DL, will his Blocking training drop significantly enough, to be sure from that point that DL players do not use Blocking skill?


The player will retain all his previous skill and will not lose any. So if a player currently has 30 blocking and is switched to DL, they will retain their 30 blocking (potentially still useful if playing STBL on STs). However, they will suffer a penalty if still playing OL on your depth chart while not in their "free position switch" period if they are not set to be OL. They will also not gain any AC benefits to training blocking so long as they are assigned as a DL. They will still be able to train it, but at a much reduced rate than if they were assigned to OL and had a highly rated AC at that coaching position.
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posted: 2022-07-30 05:02:20 (ID: 100168306) Report Abuse
Thanks again
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posted: 2022-07-30 16:06:41 (ID: 100168311) Report Abuse
You to have it also noted, if you add as facility the wind tunnel. you get on top 10% on SPE, STR and AGI training.
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posted: 2022-07-31 05:44:05 (ID: 100168318)  Edits found: 1 Report Abuse
If I'm done training a CB or SF's primary and secondary skills, tackling, vision and positioning, wouldn't it be a good idea? I just assumed that LBs SFs and CBs need and would benefit from Catching skills, for increasing the odds of an interception. Is that true or not? Thanks!

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posted: 2022-07-31 06:20:14 (ID: 100168319)  Edits found: 1 Report Abuse
michaeltodd wrote:
If I'm done training a CB or SF's primary and secondary skills, tackling, vision and positioning, wouldn't it be a good idea? I just assumed that LBs SFs and CBs need and would benefit from Catching skills, for increasing the odds of an interception. Is that true or not? Thanks!


If you are done with those three skills then all you can do is train footwork or catching.

As I can remember catching for defensive players doesn't influence on making interceptions.

But that defensive player can be back up option for WR spot if he has good catch.

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posted: 2022-07-31 17:11:39 (ID: 100168327) Report Abuse
When I'm done with the primary and secondary skills, I train them CAT, yes. But It doesn't have to have a big effect, if all and I only train them, since I have to train SOMTHING and CAT makes more sense than KIC or PUN or BLO and so on.
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posted: 2022-08-02 22:01:39 (ID: 100168368) Report Abuse
If what you say is true, and I have no reason to doubt you, then that makes no sense at all. Ridiculous, to think that LB's, SF's and CB's don't benefit from Catching skills...that it wouldn't help them to increase their interception chances a bit. I just don't understand that.
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posted: 2022-08-02 22:06:02 (ID: 100168369)  Edits found: 2 Report Abuse
Lets remember that it's a game. And in the game the positions should be balanced. And unlike the RL, the balancing must be expressed in numbers.
Well, doesn't really have to. But I'm afraid the game would attract fewer users if it wasn't.

E: I'll elaborate a little bit on this. On most occasions there is a marked difference between catching the ball intended for you to catch, and the ball it is intended to be impossible to catch by the intercepting player. Feel free to disagree - I've never played american football myself. But I did play soccer, and I know the difference between heading the ball moving in the same direction with me, and the ball moving towards me.
Add to this million other factors - the intercepting player must be either significantly faster than the receiver (because the ball will be within his reach a fraction of a second sooner than within reach by a receiver) or - and in my opinion more important, predict the motion of a ball earlier than it's the case with a receiver.
Of course in theory it can be all programmed into a simulation engine. But imagine how many times more complex would be estimating the player's value in terms of interception skill, if all attributes important irl were to be taken into account.
The alternative would be to forget the numbers altogether. To compare 2 players in terms of interceptions use statistics exclusively. Player A intercepted 1.01 more times than player B in scrimmages, put it on a curve and pick the proper error analysis algorithm. And there you go - you know who's better. Sounds like fun? Well, to me - yes. But statistics is what I've been educated to use in my professional life. But it wouldn't be fun anymore, if instead of 200+ users we'd see it drop to 10 or so, would it. Not only those, who leave because they can't even balance the costs and income in the version we have would decide it's a few levels too much math to enjoy it.
So, my understanding is Pete chose the alternative path. The probability of interception is the function of the LB or CB overall quality. It's easier to program, for sure. But first of all it's waay easier to get under some control by the average potential player.

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posted: 2022-08-04 04:21:35 (ID: 100168389)  Edits found: 1 Report Abuse
From the manual -

Other skills such as catching for the defender will also (to a lesser degree) influence whether the Interception occurs.

So if a defender has a high catch skill it will help interceptions.

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posted: 2022-08-14 06:09:48 (ID: 100168485) Report Abuse
Okay, cool. What a relief to know that all my catching training for my LB's, SF and CB's wasn't a total waste. I noticed that LB coaches and SF coaches also train catching as one of their supported skills, so I just assumed that if they give a bonus to train it then it would probably be a good thing to do in the long run. Thanks!
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