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posted: 2022-02-27 23:41:52 (ID: 100165625) Report Abuse
0:32 2 and 1 to go on opp 30, Ernst-Dieter Schröder (OC) snaps the ball to Dusty South (QB), Dusty South (QB) selected Dalton Rowley (TE/L) as target, the pass goes inner left to the receiver, who catches the ball, Dalton Rowley (TE/L) tackled by Hamad Ayubusa (OLB/R), forward progress: 7 yards, New first down (Goalline O vs. 4-3-4) more

So the half ended with this play. Considering there were 32 second, why wasn't there time for a FG attempt? How is one supposed to game plan for this?


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posted: 2022-02-27 23:53:14 (ID: 100165626) Report Abuse
I guess the offense was in a comfortable lead? If so, the QB decided to leave the field ... if the offense was not in a lead, they should have used hurry up offense, and would have had another play. But hard to judge without even knowing the match id ...
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posted: 2022-02-28 00:31:11 (ID: 100165627)  Edits found: 1 Report Abuse
I just set the last 60 seconds as if I am within the 35 yard line regardless of down to kick a field goal.

Edit: I now realized what you were asking. Why was there not enough time to run a play with 32 seconds left? It is about a 30 second run off after a run, sack, or completion whereas about 10 seconds for an incompletion. It isn't exactly 30 seconds though. When I look at my games it is sometimes 29 and and up to 32 seconds. Just like in real football isn't exact. Although I don't know with the engine why it varies.

My original comment above would avoid that though.

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posted: 2022-02-28 00:42:47 (ID: 100165628) Report Abuse
Solana_Steve wrote:
0:32 2 and 1 to go on opp 30, Ernst-Dieter Schröder (OC) snaps the ball to Dusty South (QB), Dusty South (QB) selected Dalton Rowley (TE/L) as target, the pass goes inner left to the receiver, who catches the ball, Dalton Rowley (TE/L) tackled by Hamad Ayubusa (OLB/R), forward progress: 7 yards, New first down (Goalline O vs. 4-3-4) more

So the half ended with this play. Considering there were 32 second, why wasn't there time for a FG attempt? How is one supposed to game plan for this?


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Steve
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As much as I can tell time between two downs can be from 27 to 33 seconds if some yardage is gain or loss.

Taking my last match as example in my first drive downs (excluding incomplete) took:
32 seconds
32 seconds
29 seconds
33 seconds
33 seconds
29 seconds
29 seconds
27 seconds

Since you were in a big lead engine gave you 32 or 33 seconds between downs and half expired.
That is why I have <45 seconds FG rule.
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posted: 2022-02-28 07:44:27 (ID: 100165630) Report Abuse
The play itself also takes time off the clock. So the time between the end of the play and the next snap is actually under 30 secs and pretty realistic with a lead.
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posted: 2022-02-28 08:28:50 (ID: 100165632) Report Abuse
Solana_Steve wrote:

So the half ended with this play. Considering there were 32 second, why wasn't there time for a FG attempt? How is one supposed to game plan for this?


I had this exact situation in my first team here, was upset and adjusted my playbook

in my playbook, end of the half when leading, I kick a FG when I am inside the 25 yard line inside 0:45. If I am further away I risk another play to have a higher percentage FG try
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posted: 2022-03-01 07:52:16 (ID: 100165657)  Edits found: 1 Report Abuse
Blitz vs. Raspberry - 17-0 going into HT

So is 17-0 HT lead sufficient to bypass hurry-up? Maybe that's okay...I would think at HT, you'd always try to load up as many points as possible. Certainly 17 isn't that big of a HT lead.

Since we are not able to make "in-game" calls - - the timing at the end of a half needs to be deterministic to leverage PB options. If you're telling me that the no hurry-up kicks in at 14+ points, I guess I could adjust my playbook. But I think in real football, with 32 seconds left (minus the one 7-yard pass play), a team is going to get a FG attempt off.


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posted: 2022-03-01 08:41:15 (ID: 100165658) Report Abuse
would you also like to hurry up if you are pinned at your 5 yard line with a 17 point lead and 45 seconds to go? I would even run out the clock with a 10 point deficit

so it is not that easy
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posted: 2022-03-01 15:21:38 (ID: 100165661) Report Abuse
HH_KMN wrote:
would you also like to hurry up if you are pinned at your 5 yard line with a 17 point lead and 45 seconds to go? I would even run out the clock with a 10 point deficit

so it is not that easy


That wouldn't be that bad.

I guess the question is for PB design - - it needs to be deterministic. If your driving into FG range - - what entry do you put in the PB?


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posted: 2022-03-01 15:31:10 (ID: 100165664) Report Abuse
My final minute of the half has the playbook line of:

35 yards or less away regardless of down and within 60 seconds kick a field goal. I know I could go to 45 seconds but ...
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