no content
AdBlocker active?
It seems you are using software to block advertisements. You could help us if you could switch it off when visiting redzoneaction.org.
The reason is very simple: Advertisements help us running the site, to offer you the game in a good quality for free. So if you like the game, please support us by purchasing a Supporter Account or disabling the AdBlocker on this site.
Thank you very much!
| Main / Discussions / Why pay for an expensive QB Search Forum | |
| Navigation: |< < 1 3 4 > >| | |
| Poster | Message |
| posted: 2022-08-30 11:04:41 (ID: 100168894) Report Abuse | |
|
The alternative solution - injuries in the engine would be impossible to hit all QB's in the depth chart for the game. But this would have one BIG caveat - what if the team on purpose sets only 1 QB for the match? To make sure this QB plays the whole match. Even though the team does have a backup in the squad. So that would lead to the next artificial solution - for each game there must be at least 2 QB's in the depth chart.
I don't like artificial solutions, so by no means do I say it's something worth considering. Only in case that would give someoine else an idea for something better. |
|
| Quote Reply Edit | |
| posted: 2022-08-30 11:06:47 (ID: 100168895) Report Abuse | |
|
HH_KMN wrote:
jpnwrt wrote:
The question is why. Could it be - because the injured QB without a reasonable backup could completely screw up the score? I don't think that this was the intention. If that happens, you did not properly maintain your DC or did de3cide to carry just one QB. There is nothing wrong to be penalized in a managing game when you do a mistake. Far worse penalties hit you, when you drive your finances into the red. Imo the reason is that skills are just one part of the equation on any given play. If daily form factor, offensive play vs defensive formation, morale and TC and all the factors that I did forget all are positive, then the Punter could have a pretty decent drive at QB. However, if the Punter plays QB for a longer time, probably bad things would happen Hmm.. you're probably right. I take mine back. |
|
| Quote Reply Edit | |
|
Captain Jack
|
posted: 2022-08-30 11:21:40 (ID: 100168896) Report Abuse |
|
I don't think that a minimum requirement for 2 QBs in the game is artificial. In RL every team would have at least one sub QB. So to set a minimum of 2 for us would be more realistic as well as help to prevent any abuse.
jpnwrt wrote:
The alternative solution - injuries in the engine would be impossible to hit all QB's in the depth chart for the game. But this would have one BIG caveat - what if the team on purpose sets only 1 QB for the match? To make sure this QB plays the whole match. Even though the team does have a backup in the squad. So that would lead to the next artificial solution - for each game there must be at least 2 QB's in the depth chart. I don't like artificial solutions, so by no means do I say it's something worth considering. Only in case that would give someoine else an idea for something better. |
|
| Quote Reply Edit | |
| posted: 2022-08-30 11:24:03 (ID: 100168897) Report Abuse | |
|
Drogon wrote:
linkleo911 wrote:
Just to point something weird in the same game, 2nd quarter: 6:51 2 and 4 to go on opp 40, Duncan Derrick (OC) snaps the ball to Issa Brito (P), Issa Brito (P) selected Nadim Ali (WR/R) as target, Ilian Borimirov (MLB) seems to go for the blitz, Jefferson Templeton (DE/R) breaks through, this outer screen right pass goes to the receiver, who catches the ball, Nadim Ali (WR/R) tackled by Mackenzie Haig (CB/L), forward progress: 9 yards, New first down Here the backup QB appears as a punter. In all other plays the backup appears as QB even not being his original position. The punter Issa Brito (P) is not the backup QB. Issa Brito (P) is a punter (natural position). Štepán Berbecar (QB) is the QB but was injured for this game. Damiano Dal Bo (QB) is the backup QB, and that's his natural position, Damiano Dal Bo (QB) was the only QB (natural position) in this game and got injured during a play. Then, without any QB on the DC, 7 players were randomly picked as passing-QB. Also played as QB in rushing plays : Anthony Grey (CB) Elias Spagnolo (RB) Oscar Volpi (OL) Anthony Grey (CB) Sorry, I have not made my self clear. I was aware of the QB1 injury from last training update. The Werewolves were playing with only one QB. What I called "backup QB" is the player substituting the injured QB during the game. My point is that all players that went into this role (Zsolt Kálnoki, Juan Mendoza, Bernard Jiranek, Yaver Mansour, etc) were assigned as QB in each play in the Gamecenter. Only Issa Brito was assigned as a P, as showed in my original post. That is the weird part of it. Their original positions appear on the Stats Offense. But here, take a look on it during the game: 6:21 1 and 10 to go on opp 31, Duncan Derrick (OC) snaps the ball to Zsolt Kálnoki (QB), Zsolt Kálnoki (QB) selected Juan José Hernández (WR/L) as target, the receiver of this outer left pass catches the ball, tackled by Kitti Sivaraksa (CB/R), forward progress: 14 yards, New first down Zsolt Kálnoki (QB) is a CB and here he appears as QB. That is what I would expect and happened during the game, except for this one: 6:51 2 and 4 to go on opp 40, Duncan Derrick (OC) snaps the ball to Issa Brito (P), Issa Brito (P) selected Nadim Ali (WR/R) as target, Ilian Borimirov (MLB) seems to go for the blitz, Jefferson Templeton (DE/R) breaks through, this outer screen right pass goes to the receiver, who catches the ball, Nadim Ali (WR/R) tackled by Mackenzie Haig (CB/L), forward progress: 9 yards, New first down My question is: why he appeared as P during this play? Why not as a QB as it usually happens? |
|
| Quote Reply Edit | |
| posted: 2022-08-30 13:04:43 (ID: 100168900) Report Abuse | |
|
PJRAVENS wrote:
A New Outbreak Leaves a Broncos Rookie in an Awkward Position: Quarterback Receiver Kendall Hinton was a last resort fill-in when four Denver Broncos quarterbacks were ruled ineligible to play in Sunday’s game because they’d been exposed to the coronavirus. Before Sunday, Kendall Hinton hadn’t taken a snap for the Denver Broncos at quarterback — not in a game, not in a practice, not in the recesses of his imagination — for a pretty logical reason: He is not a quarterback. Once, back at Wake Forest, he was. But as a junior he moved to wide receiver, a role he held until Saturday, when four Denver quarterbacks were ruled ineligible to play because they’d been exposed to coronavirus, causing Hinton to start cramming for the first N.F.L. game of his career, at a position he hadn’t played in more than two years. He certainly did play as QB but as we say in England he couldn't hit a cows' arse with a banjo. He had an awful time at QB - unlike the replacement QBs in the post who hit 9 for 9 on passing.  |
|
| Quote Reply Edit | |
| posted: 2022-08-30 13:56:20 (ID: 100168902) Report Abuse | |
|
The naming was just, because he did play for that play on that position and the text is not THAT smart to cover it.
And from my point of view it doesn't have to do it. IRL such situation does happen regularly, just not THAT often. NFL, College, it can happen. Quite famous case was Tom Tupa, a QB/Punter slowly becoming a full time Punter, who sometimes became the starting QB again when all regular QBs were out. Also quite known was 2012 Maryland which started a freshman LB as QB in their final 4 games, since the other QBs were out. Of cause the team lost their final 4 games. Still, the guy showed up and played. |
|
| Quote Reply Edit | |
| posted: 2022-08-30 14:26:26 (ID: 100168903) Edits found: 2 Report Abuse | |
|
jack6 wrote:
(...) Also quite known was 2012 Maryland which started a freshman LB as QB in their final 4 games, since the other QBs were out. Of cause the team lost their final 4 games. Still, the guy showed up and played. "Petty finished up 16/35 for 208 yards and a touchdown, and ran ten times for 25 yards and a score." Surprisingly good passing completion percentage, wasn't it? What about 10 rushes by QB (vs 35 passing attempts)? Unusually high, seems to me. EDIT: May be not that high, actually. May be the game is different now, than it used to be 20 something years ago. Or may be collegiate football is that much different from NFL. I looked up the rushing leaders among QB in 2021 and it looks like 3-4 per game are pretty much standard, and in some cases much more than that (up to 10 per game). Last edited on 2022-08-30 14:38:49 by jpnwrt |
|
| Quote Reply Edit | |
|
dumpling
|
posted: 2022-08-30 14:38:21 (ID: 100168904) Report Abuse |
|
Not if you're Georgia Tech or Navy
 |
|
| Quote Reply Edit | |
| posted: 2022-08-30 15:54:16 (ID: 100168905) Edits found: 1 Report Abuse | |
|
jack6 wrote:
The naming was just, because he did play for that play on that position and the text is not THAT smart to cover it. And from my point of view it doesn't have to do it. I agree. But why ONLY the punter was assigned to his original position when playing as QB? I know the text is not smart but OLs, CBs, SFs appeared as QB but when a P took the job the text suddenly become a genius and recognized him? Am I the only one annoyed with this?   Last edited on 2022-08-30 15:55:00 by linkleo911 |
|
| Quote Reply Edit | |
| posted: 2022-08-30 16:09:05 (ID: 100168906) Report Abuse | |
|
It was a fake punt?
Or possibly because in his normal capacity, a punter still receives a snap, so the engine sees a punter receiving a snap and doesn't report the position change |
|
| Quote Reply Edit | |
| reply Mark this thread unread | |
| Navigation: |< < 1 3 4 > >| | |
| Main / Discussions / Why pay for an expensive QB | |
