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Solana_Steve
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posted: 2023-01-04 03:26:03 (ID: 100171299) Report Abuse
Dumbarajko wrote:
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Hoping there is soon implemented a predictability penalty on teams who only pass to the flanks. (or else give us the option to blitz multiple LBs whenever we know the opposing offense is going to ignore the middle of the field!)


One WR averaging 17.3 catches per game.

Other one even more 18.5 catches per game.

35.8 catches combined per league game.

With a 76% completition rate.

And no defense can't find a clue for that because that is not loopside tactic.


Is that 76% completion rate in Elite or D1 or combined with SuperCup?


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posted: 2023-01-04 06:49:15 (ID: 100171300) Report Abuse
Maynard wrote:
Good game, jack6. We performed well, especially considering our QB is still out, but not good enough to get the only thing that counts. I hated seeing us punt the ball when we were down by 1 at your 40 with under two minutes left. Gotta try for the go ahead field goal there. Gameplan needs a little tweak methinks. Anyway, good luck the rest of the season!

So much for our second shot at Elite. Would like to think we can go for a crazy run and make something of our season, but that has to start right away and unfortunately our next match is against the #2 ELO team in the Malones. *Gulp* This is after we've already played the #1 team (Steve's Blitz), last year's champions (Rufio and the Kraken), the guy that made the game (Pete), and the guy that wrote the book on the game (Jack). I would like to use my one time "blame the schedule" card, please. Will sooth my sore ego!!

K, I'm good. Happy New Year, fellas

That was a good open game.
That INT my QB made in 2nd quarter on your 10 (if I get the text right, the INT was on the goal line) was a killer.
And yes, check your playbook, that punt late in the 4th was strange.
Season is not over yet, but it will be tough, for sure.

My team will have a killer 2nd half of the season with a lot of very good teams on the schedule.
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posted: 2023-01-04 08:54:40 (ID: 100171301) Report Abuse
Solana_Steve wrote:
Dumbarajko wrote:
Olband wrote:
Hoping there is soon implemented a predictability penalty on teams who only pass to the flanks. (or else give us the option to blitz multiple LBs whenever we know the opposing offense is going to ignore the middle of the field!)


One WR averaging 17.3 catches per game.

Other one even more 18.5 catches per game.

35.8 catches combined per league game.

With a 76% completition rate.

And no defense can't find a clue for that because that is not loopside tactic.


Is that 76% completion rate in Elite or D1 or combined with SuperCup?


Steve
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HH_KMN
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posted: 2023-01-04 13:05:29 (ID: 100171305)  Edits found: 2 Report Abuse
Dumbarajko wrote:

One WR averaging 17.3 catches per game.
Other one even more 18.5 catches per game.

35.8 catches combined per league game.

With a 76% completition rate.

ELITE

I had to edit as I had left some filter in the previous numbers
Elite league S47 and S48

402 total games
39178 passes
2037 sacks 5.20% per pass (not indicated if it is an outside or inside pass)
19569 outside passes (71.2% completions, 6.19 avg per pass)
17572 inside passes (62.3% completions, 6.13 avg per pass)

(0-6 yards to go)
10170 passes
405 sacks 3.98% per pass (not indicated if it is an outside or inside pass)
5375 outside passes (71.7% completions, 4.14 avg per pass)
4390 inside passes (63.8% completions, 3.20 avg per pass)

(7-10 yards to go)
25673 passes
1367 sacks 5.32% per pass (not indicated if it is an outside or inside pass)
12642 outside passes (71.6% completions, 6.84 avg per pass)
11664 inside passes (62.6% completions, 6.89 avg per pass)


(11+ yards to go)
3335 passes
265 sacks 7.95% per pass (not indicated if it is an outside or inside pass)
1552 outside passes (65.9% completions, 7.99 avg per pass)
1518 inside passes (56.3% completions, 8.82 avg per pass)

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posted: 2023-01-04 14:52:42 (ID: 100171307) Report Abuse
HH_KMN wrote:
I had to edit as I had left some filter in the previous numbers
Elite league S47 and S48

402 total games
39178 passes
2037 sacks 5.20% per pass (not indicated if it is an outside or inside pass)
19569 outside passes (71.2% completions, 6.19 avg per pass)
17572 inside passes (62.3% completions, 6.13 avg per pass)

(0-6 yards to go)
10170 passes
405 sacks 3.98% per pass (not indicated if it is an outside or inside pass)
5375 outside passes (71.7% completions, 4.14 avg per pass)
4390 inside passes (63.8% completions, 3.20 avg per pass)

(7-10 yards to go)
25673 passes
1367 sacks 5.32% per pass (not indicated if it is an outside or inside pass)
12642 outside passes (71.6% completions, 6.84 avg per pass)
11664 inside passes (62.6% completions, 6.89 avg per pass)


(11+ yards to go)
3335 passes
265 sacks 7.95% per pass (not indicated if it is an outside or inside pass)
1552 outside passes (65.9% completions, 7.99 avg per pass)
1518 inside passes (56.3% completions, 8.82 avg per pass)


In all your examples we are takling about 50/50 pass distribution outside vs inside.
In my 40 game example outside passes are at least 90% of all passes attempted.
And from those 90% outside passes you have 76% completition rate.

So it is not comparable with your numbers.

As I said you don't need TE and WR3 or WR4 in this game. Just pass outside to WR1 or WR2 and you are fine.

And all of that in 40 game span in Elite.
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posted: 2023-01-04 15:08:45 (ID: 100171308)  Edits found: 1 Report Abuse
Dumbarajko wrote:
As I said you don't need TE and WR3 or WR4 in this game. Just pass outside to WR1 or WR2 and you are fine.

And all of that in 40 game span in Elite.


you really think you can prove that statement with the mini probe of 40 games.

various down and distances, from various offense formations against various defense formations against various opponents with different skillsets?


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posted: 2023-01-04 21:56:48 (ID: 100171312) Report Abuse
HH_KMN wrote:
you really think you can prove that statement with the mini probe of 40 games.

various down and distances, from various offense formations against various defense formations against various opponents with different skillsets?


40 ELITE games, where teams are good or pretty good or extremely good, probably one or two games vs weak opponents

Season 1: 71% completion rate, 640 completed passes, at least 565 were outside (88.28%)
Season 2: 71% completion rate, 610 completed passes, at least 542 were outside (88.85%)
Season 3: 76% completion rate, 243 completed passes, at least 215 were outside (88.48%)

For me around 1.500 completed passes with over 70% completion rate, with 88.50% of that completion going outside is pretty good base to make some conclusions.

And those two WR are averaging catches per league game:

Season 1: WR 1 = 16.88, WR 2 = 16.35
Season 2: WR 1 = 15.88, WR 2 = 16.00
Season 3: WR 1 = 18.50, WR 2 = 17.33

With team making 66% victories in that 40 games span. IN ELITE.

I would really like to see if this can be done by setting playbook to pass ONLY MIDDLE.

Maybe someone can play next 40 games with passing ONLY MIDDLE to prove me wrong.
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posted: 2023-01-04 22:20:32 (ID: 100171313) Report Abuse
Maybe I wouldn't have had 5 picks total and 6 turnovers in the first quarter in my game yesterday if I set my playbook to flanks only...all 5 picks were inner right or inner left.
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posted: 2023-01-05 02:11:21 (ID: 100171314) Report Abuse
argos31 wrote:
Maybe I wouldn't have had 5 picks total and 6 turnovers in the first quarter in my game yesterday if I set my playbook to flanks only...all 5 picks were inner right or inner left.

Nah, that's just bad luck. You should definitely set to all middle of the field passes when you play me next week.
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posted: 2023-01-05 02:49:28 (ID: 100171316) Report Abuse
I agree with KMN that there are plenty of variables that make stats uncertain. (After all, isn't the point of stats to be misleading?) But i think it is correct that you can play without good TEs, so they aren't a NEED, no matter what the NFL thinks. Though perhaps with appropriate training and playbook calling they can be useful??
But to further the point of outside>inside, Pete's top two WRs each have over 100 league receptions so far this year. His TE has 6. Suggesting that the game creator doesn't tend to target the middle of the field very often.
I still think that should be considered a lopsided tactic though.
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