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| posted: 2024-08-03 21:20:19 (ID: 100185653) Report Abuse | |
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As the subject field suggests, I propose we combine the Running Back and Fullback coaching position. No offense, but this one has always been a head scratcher for me. We don't seperate DE from DT, OLB from MLB or FS from SS. Why do it for the offensive backfield only? It is super rare to have a dedicated fullback coach on any level in American football. Not that it doesn't happen, but it is super rare.
If money is an issue, because I understand that Pete is of the mind that there is too much money in the game, the salaries at the RB and FB positions could be increased to offset the savings of reducing the coaching staff position. You would be "taxing" more players than just the fullback position. You also get the benefit of higher turnover at those positions than the one FB coaching position and both FB and RB are critical offensive players. Managers are going to have to run those salaries up to stay competitive. You can't pass every down. Alternatively, you could also just raise the salaries for all the other coaching positions instead, for a more predictable outcome. I would think either of these solutions would offset the reduction of one assistant coaching position. Anyway, just a thought. I don't feel terribly strong about this, but I do think it makes good sense and I believe the pros outweigh the cons. I believe this change would allow managers to strengthen their backfield to the point where the running game might become a stronger factor in games than it is currently. |
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| posted: 2024-08-04 10:13:47 (ID: 100185668) Report Abuse | |
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From my experience a FB and a HB have quite different trainings, quite different tasks to fulfill. Even different expectations in the optimal build. I do not see how these 2 should be combined.
Not totalk about changing the mechanics of the coaching points and the limits. |
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| posted: 2024-08-04 21:29:43 (ID: 100185688) Edits found: 4 Report Abuse | |
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Sure Pete. Let's set aside the suggestion for a bit. I am just going to run through my understanding of the postions. For the record, I only played high school football at the HB, WR and eventually the CB position. I am sure you see the decline there. With that said, I am pretty knowledgable on the history and development of the modern American Football game.
In American Football, there are quarterbacks, halfbacks and fullbacks, and those positions make up the offensive backfield. Originally, when the game began in the 1800's ( I won't say invented), the backfield advanced the ball through the running game, or backwards and lateral passes. Forward passes were not allowed at all. There were not many differences at all in the offensive backfield positions back then, other than where they lined up in the backfield. All could take the snap. However, it was typical that the quarterback took the snap. If the quarterback or any of the halfbacks, who were generally smaller and faster, needed to run through the defensive line where larger men roam, the quarterback would either hand off to the fullback, or more typically, the fullback would become a "lead" blocker. That is not to say none of the other backs blocked in the running game. They absolutely did. There were a lot of ways back then to disguise running plays with misdirection and backward and lateral passes. And they needed to because they could not pass the ball downfield. Later, sometime in 1906 I think, the rules were changed to allow for one forward pass per play so long as it took place behind the line of scimmage. The primary duty of passing the ball downfield fell to the QB position due to them typically taking the snap, but all backs could, and still can, pass downfield. Think halfback pass or any of the trick plays we see every week during football season. The American Football League proved to the world that people would pay to watch teams advance the ball through the air as opposed to the running game. Passing led to quick scores and more excitement. That was really the force behind the merger with the NFL. After the two leagues merged, the passing game became more prominent starting in the 1970's, and the QB position coach was born. The rest of the backfield was, and still is, coached by a single position coach. To summarize the duties of the backfield positions in modern American Football: Quarterback (QB) - Can be a ball carrier or blocker in the running game, but typically used for misdirection (pump fake, run fake). Can be a receiver or blocker in the passing game, but is typically the passer. Unique skillset is passing the ball downfield. Halfback (HB) - Typically the ball carrier in the running game, but can be a blocker or used for misdirection. Is typically a blocker in the passing game, but can also be a reciever or passer (halfback pass). Unique skillset is very quickly rushing the ball forward. Fullback (FB) - Typically the lead blocker in the running game, but can be the ball carrier. Typically used as a blocker in the passing game, but can be a receiver or passer (you don't want him to pass though). Unique skillset is blocking. They all have the same capability according to the rules, all can pass, run or block. The differences in the positions are where they line up and the desired physical attributes at each position. It also turns out that passing the ball is really hard to do well consitantly and accuratley. Only the QB position is specialized and needs a unique position coach. In fact, the FB position has all but died now in American Football (whole other topic all together), so there is no need for teams to hire individual position coaches for FBs, even today. In fact, your FB today is probably more utilized on special teams than he is playing for the offense, if a team has one at all. That is my understanding. Thanks for reading Pete, if you got this far. I know time is valuable and this was long winded. P.S. One last thing, the modern term "running back" refers to both HBs and FBs. Last edited on 2024-08-04 22:00:09 by BoaTek |
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| posted: 2024-08-07 17:57:34 (ID: 100185729) Report Abuse | |
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BoaTek wrote:Thanks for reading Pete, if you got this far
I made it, should become a tshirt  |
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| posted: 2024-08-07 18:48:05 (ID: 100185731) Report Abuse | |
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LMAO!!
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