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| posted: 2024-09-25 18:16:00 (ID: 100186550) Report Abuse | |
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My guys in academy are mostly maxed in speed and strength by the age of 19.
Rarely some of them get maxed at 19. At 20 they are for sure maxed. I believe that drafted players should be the same. Expecially 22, 21 & 20 years old. 19 years old might be a little bit near their caps leaving us like half of season to max them. Perfect example is my WR/TE Helmar who will be 50 in speed, but needs two more training sessions to cap (whole season he was on str and spe training). And he will be almost 22 when he reaches his both caps. And I don't see how someone can apply to draft while being only on like 75% of his caps? 
How that "talent" passed drills and scouting? 😄😉🤔 Or when he got my money he started training hard? 😂 |
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| posted: 2024-09-25 20:27:41 (ID: 100186552) Report Abuse | |
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He wasn't born or raised in the States. In his home country there are no professional sport clubs everyone is welcome to join and the sport he sometimes practiced at high school (before he dropped out of school for financial reasons) wasn't anything like grid-iron football. He got into the States by winning the visa lottery at the age of 20 and only then someone has noticed he's got the potential.
;-) I personally don't like the idea of both physicals maxed. I don't know why - I may be one of the very few managers willing to push physicals to players even as old as 24-25  . I just don't.
On the other hand, I don't see anything wrong with the idea, so the story at the top is simply a reply to the question - not the critical view of the idea. If there's a poll, I will vote "no opinion". |
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| posted: 2024-09-28 20:25:27 (ID: 100186594) Report Abuse | |
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jpnwrt wrote:
I personally don't like the idea of both physicals maxed. I don't know why - I may be one of the very few managers willing to push physicals to players even as old as 24-25 . I just don't.
Same, then they sit on 10% physical |
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| posted: 2024-09-29 08:50:40 (ID: 100186603) Report Abuse | |
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I agree with the proposal, it's very logical. If the Academy boys aged 19-20 already have their physical limit (i think we all start from there), it would be normal for the guys in the Draft over 20 to already come with their physical values determined.
I think that it was one of the modifications made to the Academy, to increase the training speed a little. Or maybe it was increasing the default values of the young players, I don't remember exactly now. There would also be another solution: to decrease the speed or the values of the Academy people so that they don't reach their limits before 22-23 years old...  |
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| posted: 2024-09-29 09:11:25 (ID: 100186604) Report Abuse | |
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I'd agree with you guys, if not for one thing. When you invite a player to your squad from the youth pull, a lot of uncertainty is involved.
Will that "intelligent enough" be really enough, this time? A bit more than the 29.5 my otherwise really interesting WR brought today. Will the "really strong" DL mean 50, or will he stop at, say, 46.9? The idea we discuss here is to remove the last uncertain thing about the players on the list. Removing it would shift the balance between the influx of fresh blood from the academy and from the draft, in my opinion. But like I said, if there is a poll, I will not vote against it. |
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| posted: 2024-09-29 16:16:00 (ID: 100186610) Edits found: 1 Report Abuse | |
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I like the idea of improving the quality of draft youths because, currently, they are quite a bit weaker than good 20yo academy youths. I really enjoy the draft now (having a draft was one of the things that attracted me to RZA), but if we want the draft to be even more exciting and to play a meaningful role in roster-building, I’d say that draft youths need to be stronger.
So, if it comes to the vote, I may support the proposal. Maxing SPD and STR is one way but, as has been pointed out, it would remove an element of chance/hidden value. Also, you’d expect youths to get stronger and quicker once they become full-time athletes (no more exams) and have access to even higher standards of coaching and training techniques at pro franchises. So, maxing SPD, STR on draft day isn’t ‘realistic’. That said, it may be a convenient way to improve the draft. Not wanting to take this thread off topic, but it may be worth thinking of increasing the stats of draft youths, while retaining a ‘hidden value’ element. For example, increasing SPD and STR to say 80-100% of max, and also increasing some other stats eg skills or FW etc. In other words, increasing quality by increasing some other stats, not just SPD, STR. Last edited on 2024-09-29 16:39:06 by StuartW |
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| posted: 2024-09-29 17:12:55 (ID: 100186612) Report Abuse | |
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Some basic numbers
Average strength of draftees: 43 Average Speed of draftees: 43 Average Strength / Speed cap: 42.5 |
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| posted: 2024-09-29 22:43:32 (ID: 100186614) Report Abuse | |
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pete wrote:
Some basic numbers Average strength of draftees: 43 Average Speed of draftees: 43 Average Strength / Speed cap: 42.5 I'll be honest...a player with 43 or 45 in both stats (STR/SPD) at the age of 21 would not get a place in my squad either immediately or in the future! If he has his physical stats at maximum he is too old to work on the non-physical stats to have an impact! That's why the academy players have more priority, because at 21 they have at least 2 physical values at the level I imagine for a player in the squad and in addition they have a few non-physical values at an acceptable level to build on. |
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| posted: 2024-09-30 07:26:00 (ID: 100186616) Report Abuse | |
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My personal take on the drafties was always, to take the physicals as capped for speed and strength and the rest is bonus, which leads to eventually bad draft decisions, but more often to players I can actually use.
Right now, usually 1 players survives on the roster, the rest is gone, because they are too old or too bad, mostly because their physicals are too weak and do cap too early or will take so long they are already grandfather before capping. My wish would be to have in the scout report at least a hint (a good hint with maybe 5% wrong hint chance) if they are capped and when they will cap. I do not need a capped player, but rather a view on the potential. |
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| posted: 2024-09-30 07:50:04 (ID: 100186617) Report Abuse | |
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jack6 wrote:
My wish would be to have in the scout report at least a hint (a good hint with maybe 5% wrong hint chance) if they are capped and when they will cap. I agree with that. It would be nice if you could see if the player is yellow capped or red capped or even further away. That would help tremendously, but I think that would be a lot of work for Pete to implement for the draft scouting. |
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