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posted: 2025-09-14 11:51:22 (ID: 100193677) Report Abuse
I've never had this happen before, so curious if anyone else has.

My player aged from 30 to 31 and suffered a loss in Agility. Nothing odd about that, but prior to turning 31, his red cap was 50, and I only had him at 49.9. He dropped to 48.4, but still is yellow. So my question is, will he turn red at 49 or 50?
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posted: 2025-09-14 12:35:34 (ID: 100193678) Report Abuse
ptdoc2017 wrote:
I've never had this happen before, so curious if anyone else has.

My player aged from 30 to 31 and suffered a loss in Agility. Nothing odd about that, but prior to turning 31, his red cap was 50, and I only had him at 49.9. He dropped to 48.4, but still is yellow. So my question is, will he turn red at 49 or 50?

As far as I know, the drop is in his skills, not caps.
But I Never had that case.
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posted: 2025-09-14 12:48:48 (ID: 100193679)  Edits found: 1 Report Abuse
The manual says this:

Manual wrote:
Players with age 31 or higher might lose some abilities. Such a loss will come true at season rollover, and will hit either speed, strength or agility of such an player in a very marginal way (~1-3%). If a player was hit by the loss, he cannot regain the ability by training.


I would conclude that you can gain only 0.1 in agility through training.

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posted: 2025-09-14 13:30:58 (ID: 100193681) Report Abuse
Luprilla wrote:
The manual says this:

Manual wrote:
Players with age 31 or higher might lose some abilities. Such a loss will come true at season rollover, and will hit either speed, strength or agility of such an player in a very marginal way (~1-3%). If a player was hit by the loss, he cannot regain the ability by training.


I would conclude that you can gain only 0.1 in agility through training.

You are right, that sounds like the cap is also effected and you have to overtrain the player, once he hits red cap.
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posted: 2025-09-14 13:31:36 (ID: 100193683) Report Abuse
He will turn red at 50.0 and you can overtrain him until that happens, but at age 31 he will not get 1.6 in 1 season, even if he has 50 Teamwork.
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posted: 2025-09-14 13:41:10 (ID: 100193685) Report Abuse
Radu91 wrote:
He will turn red at 50.0 and you can overtrain him until that happens, but at age 31 he will not get 1.6 in 1 season, even if he has 50 Teamwork.

Not so fast.
He said he WAS 49.9 and that means he would have red capped at 50.
He dropped NOW to 48.5, so -1.5 skill points.

Given the manual description and that I never saw even with a drop of 0.5 a ! again, I think it's fair to assume, the drop happens also on the cap.
That would mean, 50.0 - 1.5 = 48.5.

I personally would train that player 90% strength on the next training and then have a look. At that age he should not gain 0.6 anyway, so either he caps on the next training or not.
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posted: 2025-09-14 14:04:30 (ID: 100193688) Report Abuse
jack6 wrote:
Radu91 wrote:
He will turn red at 50.0 and you can overtrain him until that happens, but at age 31 he will not get 1.6 in 1 season, even if he has 50 Teamwork.

Not so fast.
He said he WAS 49.9 and that means he would have red capped at 50.
He dropped NOW to 48.5, so -1.5 skill points.

Given the manual description and that I never saw even with a drop of 0.5 a ! again, I think it's fair to assume, the drop happens also on the cap.
That would mean, 50.0 - 1.5 = 48.5.

I personally would train that player 90% strength on the next training and then have a look. At that age he should not gain 0.6 anyway, so either he caps on the next training or not.


You assume that. You can't find that specification anywhere. Do therefor i am considering the players red cap is still at 50.0.
On the training part it's like a 0.1 every 2-3 training sessions with a great AC and a 50 TW players. If that is not the case maybe you are right and he gets a max of 0.6 the whole season. Still it's worth a shot to check if that red cap will be at 49 as you presume if he hasn't anything else to train.
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posted: 2025-09-14 18:42:13 (ID: 100193702) Report Abuse
From my exp I never had the case of a yellow! After a reduction. But shouldn‘t a player with cap at say 50 and full trained and a loss of 0.5 then have still have a cap at 50 and then again yellow! ? According what I understand of your comment.

I think the cap is reduced to 49.5, in this case and red Stars since the cap is reached.
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posted: 2025-09-14 19:56:04 (ID: 100193706) Report Abuse
jack6 wrote:
From my exp I never had the case of a yellow! After a reduction. But shouldn‘t a player with cap at say 50 and full trained and a loss of 0.5 then have still have a cap at 50 and then again yellow! ? According what I understand of your comment.

I think the cap is reduced to 49.5, in this case and red Stars since the cap is reached.


That is right. Me neigther. All are red.
Nope. Red is red. Once it's red when the number goes down because of age is still red.
Yes, and i had players with their strength, speed or agility reduced and i overtrained them and that number increased.
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posted: 2025-09-15 01:19:05 (ID: 100193717) Report Abuse
I'll be sure to let everyone know how it plays out. If the only the player stat is dropped, and not the red cap, that could be an interesting loophole to avoid the aging penalty by keeping a stat at 49.9 instead of max'ing out at 50.
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