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| posted: 2026-04-25 10:59:56 (ID: 100199690) Report Abuse | |
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Heya, RZA-world!
My team struggles mightily on special teams. It’s been lower rated than the other aspects that cumulate in OVR ever since the SEA LIONS entered the game. But this season it’s, at least in my esitmation, lower than ever, compared to the other phases of the game. Our Kicker, still young, missed some easy FG Kicks this season, and already has 7 missed PATs on the record. Punts are mostly ok, our Punter is solid. Still: I’d guess, even more so since I learned that the units as a whole carry responsibility for the success of the kicking game, that I can optimize STBL and STT. Now I have done some scrimmages to get to know special teams better and came away with questions. I hope, you can help me. I was taught to put up the special teams units STBL and STT like this: STBL -> KR - FB - TE - OL - OL - OL - OL - OL - TE - FB - KR STT —>G - CB - SF - LB - DL - K - DL - LB - SF - CB - G STBL is the Unit is on the field to receive a Punt/Kick-off, STT the Unit is on the field to Punt/Kick the Ball away. But what about those PATs? I tried to tick the special teams units „first string“ on the home team (I’ll call it "Team A"), to see how their appearances on the field match the scoring. I think it did not work the way I wanted it to, but I don’t know. Team A had those special teams plays: 4 Punts, 1 Fieldgoal, 5 PATs and 7 Kick-Offs (5 after the TDs, 1 after the FG, 1 to kick of the second half of the game). The other team had also 4 Punts, 1 Fieldgoal missed, 4 PATs and 5 Kick-Offs (4 after TD, 1 to kick off the game). Team A’s Punter was on 4 times, which matches the number of punts. The Kicker was on the field 12 times, which already is strange: 1 FG, 5 PATs and 7 Kick-Offs… he should have been on the field 13 times. On STT the left G had 11 plays, the right G 10, one DL on the left to the K had 10, one DL on the right had 9, and then it’s 8, 7 and down to 6 for the rest of the players. Since ticking „first string“ did not do anything on this unit a lot of other players from the depth chart were playing special teams, too, some only for 1 snap. But on average each position on the depth chart played 11 snaps. On STBL the C had 9 plays, as had the left KR and the right TE. Most players on this unit had only 5 plays, though. On average, calculated like on STT above, each position on STBL had 9 snaps. Now I try to make sense of when which unit is used. STT seems to be the one for kicking off and Punts, as for Team A it’s 4 punts plus 7 kick-offs, so 11 plays, which equals the appearances of the left G on STT. STBL clearly is for returning kicks and punts, as the opposing team had 4 Punts and 5 Kick-offs, which equals 9 appearances on the field. … Which leaves us with 5 PATs and 1 Fieldgoal for Team A and the question: Which unit is on the field for those? Is it the offense and the defense that was on the field for the last snap before the score?  |
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MacsUltraVideosYT
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posted: 2026-04-25 11:18:52 (ID: 100199692) Report Abuse |
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Chrill wrote:
this is a very interesting question, and I've never really thought of it...
Heya, RZA-world! My team struggles mightily on special teams. It’s been lower rated than the other aspects that cumulate in OVR ever since the SEA LIONS entered the game. But this season it’s, at least in my esitmation, lower than ever, compared to the other phases of the game. Our Kicker, still young, missed some easy FG Kicks this season, and already has 7 missed PATs on the record. Punts are mostly ok, our Punter is solid. Still: I’d guess, even more so since I learned that the units as a whole carry responsibility for the success of the kicking game, that I can optimize STBL and STT. Now I have done some scrimmages to get to know special teams better and came away with questions. I hope, you can help me. I was taught to put up the special teams units STBL and STT like this: STBL -> KR - FB - TE - OL - OL - OL - OL - OL - TE - FB - KR STT —>G - CB - SF - LB - DL - K - DL - LB - SF - CB - G STBL is the Unit is on the field to receive a Punt/Kick-off, STT the Unit is on the field to Punt/Kick the Ball away. But what about those PATs? I tried to tick the special teams units „first string“ on the home team (I’ll call it "Team A"), to see how their appearances on the field match the scoring. I think it did not work the way I wanted it to, but I don’t know. Team A had those special teams plays: 4 Punts, 1 Fieldgoal, 5 PATs and 7 Kick-Offs (5 after the TDs, 1 after the FG, 1 to kick of the second half of the game). The other team had also 4 Punts, 1 Fieldgoal missed, 4 PATs and 5 Kick-Offs (4 after TD, 1 to kick off the game). Team A’s Punter was on 4 times, which matches the number of punts. The Kicker was on the field 12 times, which already is strange: 1 FG, 5 PATs and 7 Kick-Offs… he should have been on the field 13 times. On STT the left G had 11 plays, the right G 10, one DL on the left to the K had 10, one DL on the right had 9, and then it’s 8, 7 and down to 6 for the rest of the players. Since ticking „first string“ did not do anything on this unit a lot of other players from the depth chart were playing special teams, too, some only for 1 snap. But on average each position on the depth chart played 11 snaps. On STBL the C had 9 plays, as had the left KR and the right TE. Most players on this unit had only 5 plays, though. On average, calculated like on STT above, each position on STBL had 9 snaps. Now I try to make sense of when which unit is used. STT seems to be the one for kicking off and Punts, as for Team A it’s 4 punts plus 7 kick-offs, so 11 plays, which equals the appearances of the left G on STT. STBL clearly is for returning kicks and punts, as the opposing team had 4 Punts and 5 Kick-offs, which equals 9 appearances on the field. … Which leaves us with 5 PATs and 1 Fieldgoal for Team A and the question: Which unit is on the field for those? Is it the offense and the defense that was on the field for the last snap before the score? Nothing in the manual indicates anything about FGs and PATs and special teams units, so I would presume that the offense and defense was in fact on the field... especially since your STT and STBL didn't cover that... I honestly don't know the answer, I mean it may be deep in the manual, but based on your data and what I've learned in RZA, yeah, I do think it was your offense and defense... Hold up, since you own a supporter account, DO THIS: replay your scrimmages and look for who's on the field for the PATs and FGs if you can... It may answer your question...  |
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| posted: 2026-04-25 11:26:47 (ID: 100199693) Report Abuse | |
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MacsUltraVideosYT wrote:
DO THIS: replay your scrimmages and look for who's on the field for the PATs and FGs if you can... It may answer your question... It doesn’t show properly. I’ve seen it for some times now that on these plays only few players are shown on the overview under the field, and even if… it’s hard to remember all the names shown there when you get to my age. And since you can’t pull it up without letting it run, it could take a long time until I can make a screenshot of such an occasion 🫣 |
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MacsUltraVideosYT
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posted: 2026-04-25 11:38:55 (ID: 100199694) Report Abuse |
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Chrill wrote:
well then... I guess this will remain a mystery... MacsUltraVideosYT wrote:
DO THIS: replay your scrimmages and look for who's on the field for the PATs and FGs if you can... It may answer your question... It doesn’t show properly. I’ve seen it for some times now that on these plays only few players are shown on the overview under the field, and even if… it’s hard to remember all the names shown there when you get to my age. And since you can’t pull it up without letting it run, it could take a long time until I can make a screenshot of such an occasion 🫣  |
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| posted: 2026-04-26 01:52:37 (ID: 100199698) Edits found: 1 Report Abuse | |
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For a FG, your offence is on the field as you set your formation for FG in the offence playbook. I think I was told to use the Goaline O formation.
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| posted: 2026-04-26 10:09:11 (ID: 100199707) Report Abuse | |
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waky53 wrote:
For a FG, your offence is on the field as you set your formation for FG in the offence playbook. Well, d’uh 
Thanks for that, I love it when I oversee the most obvious answers 
Which still leaves us with the PATs… but I guess that’s cared for by the offense that was on the field for the TD or the FG, too. Interesting bit about the GoallineO-Formation for FGs… I think I’ll check that out. Last I read about this was „formation and play direction for FGs is not relevant“… now you saying that a specific formation might be better than others seems to contradict the former notion. I’ll look into that some time  |
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MacsUltraVideosYT
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posted: 2026-04-26 11:24:51 (ID: 100199708) Report Abuse |
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Chrill wrote:
well, I guess we all learned know that the FGs and PATs are handled by offense based on your formation you put in the playbook... waky53 wrote:
For a FG, your offence is on the field as you set your formation for FG in the offence playbook. Well, d’uh
Thanks for that, I love it when I oversee the most obvious answers
Which still leaves us with the PATs… but I guess that’s cared for by the offense that was on the field for the TD or the FG, too. Interesting bit about the GoallineO-Formation for FGs… I think I’ll check that out. Last I read about this was „formation and play direction for FGs is not relevant“… now you saying that a specific formation might be better than others seems to contradict the former notion. I’ll look into that some time |
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| posted: 2026-04-26 15:09:44 (ID: 100199713) Report Abuse | |
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Not directly related to your question, but I used to have a strong rated ST (about 68%, strong according to my team value).
It dropped to 59% since a few matches, and I can't figure out the reason (depth chart completely unchanged...) |
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posted: 2026-04-26 23:59:15 (ID: 100199728) Report Abuse |
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fabry wrote:
I honestly don't know, I mean the overall thing has a weird influx, I have had to deal with that... Not directly related to your question, but I used to have a strong rated ST (about 68%, strong according to my team value). It dropped to 59% since a few matches, and I can't figure out the reason (depth chart completely unchanged...) |
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