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posted: 2011-11-10 07:14:18 (ID: 16028)
KingOfTh3Hil wrote:
NYDOGS wrote:
10 stars is a change!


Then i pressed wrong...


You can press again as you like, you vote will be changed then
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oddball
posted: 2011-11-10 10:50:32 (ID: 16042) Report Abuse
1 MotY no matter which game type, its MotY not Match per Title.

a bigger PC hit would be good too as it should be that big push for the season not for a low game after.
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Swordpriest1
posted: 2011-11-10 16:39:32 (ID: 16065) Report Abuse
I think i'm in league with those who aren't quite sure why we have a MotY. At first i rather liked the concept as something of a measure on how hard you wanted your team to play in the final game of the season but now I see it as some sort of Special Weapon on an RPG in which you get to use it on one boss but if you fighter another more tougher boss afterward... well your probably screwed.

Competition doesnt work that way. I'm not saying teams dont get up and play harder for certain games but the idea that they "exhausted" all there resources for that game and will have a potential competitive disadvantage for games after doesnt quite sit well.

I'll take this arguement from the other angle though. Normally in games of great importance (ones where the MotY might be utilized) both teams are equally intense in their will to win so the advantages are neutralized. What I see that tends to happen is a underdog team beats the better team.. not because the underdog takes it more serious but because the better team is playing "relaxed". The coaches on the sidelines dont X and O any different from game to game but what you see is the player output will be REDUCED because they dont feel the sense of urgency...

How you incorporate that into the game is sorta problematic as I'm willing to bet not many of us have set our teams to "relaxed" even against bots for risk of possible loosing and therefore loosing income. How much less of a PC hit do I take if I set my team to "relaxed".. will it affect my fanbase if they see my team jogging around the field?.. Can my team flip the switch and play hard again next week or is this affect residual? This happens in real life all the time.. (ask the San Diego Chargers) and I think we kinda over looked it
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posted: 2011-11-10 18:10:00 (ID: 16093) Report Abuse
I admit I'm lost in the this whole MOTY stuff.

once a season, only in regular season, mandatory in playoffs, for every match type, only once a season regardless of the match type....

From my point of view this concept is not working, so skip it and think of something else or adjust it that it works.

To compare it to hattrick (Soccer simulation).
There you have also a match of the year and a relaxed mode.
This decreases or increases the atmosphere in the team (so like moral).
You start with 50% and if you do nothing it stays there, a relaxed games increases it by 33%, a moty decreases it by 50%.
There are more factors involved, so a compare is not 100%.
The thing is, you can do this as often as you like. You have to deal with the angry players or with the so comfident players that the underestimate the opponent.
By the way, moral is not increase/decreased by win/lose, there is another value called "confidence" which acts like moral here.

So maybe an open soulution would help.....
But at hattrick there are no playoffs.
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posted: 2011-11-10 20:14:21 (ID: 16130) Report Abuse
jack6 wrote:
I admit I'm lost in the this whole MOTY stuff.

once a season, only in regular season, mandatory in playoffs, for every match type, only once a season regardless of the match type....

From my point of view this concept is not working, so skip it and think of something else or adjust it that it works.

To compare it to hattrick (Soccer simulation).
There you have also a match of the year and a relaxed mode.
This decreases or increases the atmosphere in the team (so like moral).
You start with 50% and if you do nothing it stays there, a relaxed games increases it by 33%, a moty decreases it by 50%.
There are more factors involved, so a compare is not 100%.
The thing is, you can do this as often as you like. You have to deal with the angry players or with the so comfident players that the underestimate the opponent.
By the way, moral is not increase/decreased by win/lose, there is another value called "confidence" which acts like moral here.

So maybe an open soulution would help.....
But at hattrick there are no playoffs.

PLZ no HT rule here if you have one very good team and one team so are just a little bit better then other then very good team can play relax mode against all the team but MOTY against next best team when the next best team need to go careful whit relax mode against all there opponent
EDIT: we have promotion/relegate games at hattrick right?

Last edited on 2011-11-10 20:15:26 by looser

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posted: 2011-11-11 07:00:44 (ID: 16170) Report Abuse
looser wrote:
jack6 wrote:
I admit I'm lost in the this whole MOTY stuff.

once a season, only in regular season, mandatory in playoffs, for every match type, only once a season regardless of the match type....

From my point of view this concept is not working, so skip it and think of something else or adjust it that it works.

To compare it to hattrick (Soccer simulation).
There you have also a match of the year and a relaxed mode.
This decreases or increases the atmosphere in the team (so like moral).
You start with 50% and if you do nothing it stays there, a relaxed games increases it by 33%, a moty decreases it by 50%.
There are more factors involved, so a compare is not 100%.
The thing is, you can do this as often as you like. You have to deal with the angry players or with the so comfident players that the underestimate the opponent.
By the way, moral is not increase/decreased by win/lose, there is another value called "confidence" which acts like moral here.

So maybe an open soulution would help.....
But at hattrick there are no playoffs.

PLZ no HT rule here if you have one very good team and one team so are just a little bit better then other then very good team can play relax mode against all the team but MOTY against next best team when the next best team need to go careful whit relax mode against all there opponent
EDIT: we have promotion/relegate games at hattrick right?

I just brought up the hattrick system, to show a different one which is very open.
And yes you are right, you can play that way there.
Regarding promotion/relegation games it depends on the level you play and in which region.
Normally the first placed team gets promotion, the last 2 get relegation without an additional game.
But sometimes 2 or 3 placed teams get a match to play against 6 placed teams, as far as I know.

BACK TO TOPIC:
I understand the managing part of the idea, but it seems to rise more complains than cheers.
Anyone HAPPY with the system?
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posted: 2011-11-11 07:17:42 (ID: 16173)
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Laudis
posted: 2011-11-13 12:37:20 (ID: 16408) Report Abuse
Make it simple.

If you say your players that this is the match they have to play for their life. They will play and noone would expect they are ready again in short time period. In case you would do it twice, then u could do, but getting back with fitness will consume you a big portion of your training and may harm seriously your players.
Which is fair and simple.


So please leave it simple as it is.
The suggestion you made are quite not easy to understand.
And simple rules attract more users in long term. People dont play games they dont understand.
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sfniner08
posted: 2011-11-13 12:48:17 (ID: 16410) Report Abuse
It isn't really complicated. The proposal is that you get one MOTY for the regular season and that the postseason is all MOTY. As it is at the moment is unbalanced.
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Turtlemania
posted: 2011-11-13 12:54:37 (ID: 16413) Report Abuse
Proposal is

MOTY in all Playoffs

One MOTY per "competition" (league Super Cup Champ of Champs) in regular season so it is 3 MOTY chance per season



And think again of it i give it 10 stars just to have a change and final this discussion
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