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Lee1950
posted: 2011-12-13 17:39:08 (ID: 19851) Report Abuse
Also: Experience could be included in decision making for QBs.....
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dark_wing
posted: 2011-12-15 03:46:54 (ID: 20030) Report Abuse
Buffalo wrote:
dark_wing wrote:
Admin wrote:
Pass

Snap (C-QB) - receiverselection - block calculation (5 OL - 3-5 DL) - blitz calculation - coveragecalculation (WR - CB/OLB) - catching calculation - interception calculation - rush calculation, based on the point of catching and the left backfield


My offer.

Snap (C-QB) - block calculation (5 OL - 3-5 DL) - blitz calculation - coveragecalculation (WR - CB/OLB) - receiverselection (based on coveragecalculation, and QB vision and intellect) - catching calculation - interception calculation - rush calculation


The actual calulation could is not right and not wrong. I think a QB has his primary target in his mind before the snap. Depending on the coverage and blizing of the D, he would chance his target, if he is a good QB. So I suggest to add a chance that the QB can change his target.
Snap - Target selection - block calculation - block calculation (5 OL - 3-5 DL) - blitz calculation - coveragecalculation (WR - CB/OLB) % for other target selection, if there is a blitz or the target well covered - catching calculation
The % could be depend on Intelligence,Passion, Vision

Intelligence + [(Passing/2)+(Vision/2)=XX% that the QB chance his target

Example: 40 INT + (24/2) + (20/2) = 62% that the QB s e l e c t another target



I think it is to low.
Another case
Intelligence*1,5 +Vision/2
Example: 40*1,5 + 20/2 = 70 %
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JonnyP
posted: 2011-12-15 08:59:06 (ID: 20050) Report Abuse
I don't think the passing skill should be involved in the selection process of an alternative receiver - surely the passinig skill is his ability to actually deliver the pass once he had decided where he is throwing?

(Int*1.5)+(vision*0.5) ought to be enough.


edit - exactly as dark_wing said - note to self - read ALL posts before posting

Last edited on 2011-12-15 08:59:51 by JonnyP

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Lee1950
posted: 2011-12-15 09:32:15 (ID: 20054) Report Abuse
JonnyP wrote:
(Int*1.5)+(vision*0.5) ought to be enough.

Or (Int*1.5)+(vision*0.5)+(Experience*0.5)
Making the 2nd/3rd/etc read gets easier with experience

Or ((Int*1.5)+(vision*0.5)+(Experience*0.5))*TC/100
Would effectively limit new QBs to just the primary receiver, although a very smart experienced QB might still have some success.

Last edited on 2011-12-15 09:35:04 by Lee1950

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dark_wing
posted: 2011-12-15 14:59:08 (ID: 20083) Report Abuse
Lee1950 wrote:
JonnyP wrote:
(Int*1.5)+(vision*0.5) ought to be enough.

Or (Int*1.5)+(vision*0.5)+(Experience*0.5)
Making the 2nd/3rd/etc read gets easier with experience

Or ((Int*1.5)+(vision*0.5)+(Experience*0.5))*TC/100
Would effectively limit new QBs to just the primary receiver, although a very smart experienced QB might still have some success.


It can be tested.
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Buffalo
posted: 2011-12-15 15:02:19 (ID: 20084) Report Abuse
I think the admin know now our idea and know what is possible in the engine and could think about a good formula.
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posted: 2011-12-15 19:10:01 (ID: 20098) Report Abuse
Buffalo wrote:
I think a QB has his primary target in his mind before the snap. Depending on the coverage and blizing of the D, he would chance his target, if he is a good QB. So I suggest to add a chance that the QB can change his target.


Yes, usually a QB has a progression he goes through...starting with his primary receivers and then working down the list. Generally, there is a fullback or somebody coming out of the backfield for a short pass that is the last resort.


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posted: 2011-12-15 19:10:43 (ID: 20099) Report Abuse
Admin wrote:

Pass

Snap (C-QB) - receiverselection - block calculation (5 OL - 3-5 DL) - blitz calculation - coveragecalculation (WR - CB/OLB) - catching calculation - interception calculation - rush calculation, based on the point of catching and the left backfield


Does this mean a safety is never involved in pass coverage??

Steve
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posted: 2011-12-15 19:16:10 (ID: 20102)
Solana_Steve wrote:
Admin wrote:

Pass

Snap (C-QB) - receiverselection - block calculation (5 OL - 3-5 DL) - blitz calculation - coveragecalculation (WR - CB/OLB) - catching calculation - interception calculation - rush calculation, based on the point of catching and the left backfield


Does this mean a safety is never involved in pass coverage??

Steve
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backfield means - depending on the position of the catch - LB, CB, SS or FS.
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posted: 2011-12-15 21:53:10 (ID: 20152) Report Abuse
I didn't mean the run after the catch, I was thinking more about the pass coverage:

coveragecalculation (WR - CB/OLB)

implies that Safeties and MLBs aren't involved in coverage. But perhaps that was an omission, but it doesn't list TEs either.


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