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posted: 2012-01-17 18:27:52 (ID: 24440) Report Abuse
Obviously, every player is important, but usually there are positions that have a greater effect (QB for example) and those that are less important (Gunner perhaps). Just trying to determine which are the "impact" position and where I should assign my best players, coaches and efforts.

For offense:

- - - impact - - -
QB (perhaps when passing becomes for viable)
RB (running seems key here)
WR (perhaps when passing becomes for viable)
- - - average - - -
OL (not sure maybe the OT's are impact players stopping the pass rush? Otherwise important to the run and pass game but I'm not sure any one player is that critical).
- - - not so much - - -
TE (not that big a factor in the passing game. Haven't seen a dramatic impact on run game either)
FB (block occasionally, run occasionally, but isn't a real difference maker IMHO)

For defense:

- - - impact - - -
DE (sacks)
S (last line of defense - - also picking up sacks)
- - - average - - -
DT/NT (makes a lot of takes and can potential miss a lot of tackles)
OLB (seems to garner the majority of game changing interceptions)
- - - not so much - - -
CB (pass game just not that critical yet)
MLB (not sure he's getting more than a few tackle opportunities)

For Special Teams:

- - - impact - - -
K (difference between a made and missed field goal could be the game)
- - - average - - -
- - - not so much - - -
P (what's the difference between a stud punter and a nobody, maybe 4 yards per punt)
KR (only a little bit of yardage difference)
G (only a little bit of yardage difference)

Those are just my opinions. What's yours?

Steve
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posted: 2012-01-17 18:29:29 (ID: 24441)
I think the question is not valid.

You should ask for situations...like "screen pass left/right" or "rush through the middle"...IMO
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posted: 2012-01-17 18:32:40 (ID: 24442) Report Abuse
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I think the question is not valid.

You should ask for situations...like "screen pass left/right" or "rush through the middle"...IMO


Yes, I understand that on different plays different players will be used.

But if you're building your team from scratch and you've got better players and worse ones, the question become where to assign the better players too and focus your training/coaching efforts.


Steve
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posted: 2012-01-17 18:33:39 (ID: 24443) Report Abuse
Solana_Steve wrote:
Obviously, every player is important, but usually there are positions that have a greater effect (QB for example) and those that are less important (Gunner perhaps). Just trying to determine which are the "impact" position and where I should assign my best players, coaches and efforts.

For offense:

- - - impact - - -
QB (perhaps when passing becomes for viable)
RB (running seems key here)
WR (perhaps when passing becomes for viable)
- - - average - - -
OL (not sure maybe the OT's are impact players stopping the pass rush? Otherwise important to the run and pass game but I'm not sure any one player is that critical).
- - - not so much - - -
TE (not that big a factor in the passing game. Haven't seen a dramatic impact on run game either)
FB (block occasionally, run occasionally, but isn't a real difference maker IMHO)

For defense:

- - - impact - - -
DE (sacks)
S (last line of defense - - also picking up sacks)
- - - average - - -
DT/NT (makes a lot of takes and can potential miss a lot of tackles)
OLB (seems to garner the majority of game changing interceptions)
- - - not so much - - -
CB (pass game just not that critical yet)
MLB (not sure he's getting more than a few tackle opportunities)

For Special Teams:

- - - impact - - -
K (difference between a made and missed field goal could be the game)
- - - average - - -
- - - not so much - - -
P (what's the difference between a stud punter and a nobody, maybe 4 yards per punt)
KR (only a little bit of yardage difference)
G (only a little bit of yardage difference)

Those are just my opinions. What's yours?

Steve
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When the passing game is viable I think the TE's will be an impact player.

I work inside out. To me the OL and DL are THE most important things to worry about. Does no good to have an all world QB if he is getting sacked/pressured constantly. After those two I worry about the LB, (particularly MLB as he is the captain who helps recognize plays for the defense), safeties, and RB.

Once I have that core I will worry about the rest. Without this core I think it will be difficult to be successful. Of course, that is my opinion.
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posted: 2012-01-17 18:35:09 (ID: 24444) Report Abuse
Basically I would divide 3 sections

Offense Scorers
Key Defenders (CB/LB/SF)
K/P

Now assign RB/QB/WR first
Add a decent (if possible) key defense
fill K/P
do the other positions...

The more guys there are per positon group, the later I would assign them
Just my opinion
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posted: 2012-01-17 19:53:34 (ID: 24458) Report Abuse
pete wrote:
Basically I would divide 3 sections

Offense Scorers
Key Defenders (CB/LB/SF)
K/P

Now assign RB/QB/WR first
Add a decent (if possible) key defense
fill K/P
do the other positions...

The more guys there are per positon group, the later I would assign them
Just my opinion


Interesting, I would have though the DL would rank higher.

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posted: 2012-01-17 20:11:50 (ID: 24461) Report Abuse
Solana_Steve wrote:
pete wrote:
Basically I would divide 3 sections

Offense Scorers
Key Defenders (CB/LB/SF)
K/P

Now assign RB/QB/WR first
Add a decent (if possible) key defense
fill K/P
do the other positions...

The more guys there are per positon group, the later I would assign them
Just my opinion


Interesting, I would have though the DL would rank higher.

Steve
SD Blitz


IMO you have to score points...if you score enough, the defense does not matter

DL and OL are 3-5 each on the field, and you wont have that many good players for those positions, this is why I did not care about

Dont know if this makes any sense
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posted: 2012-01-17 20:13:39 (ID: 24463) Report Abuse
pete wrote:
Solana_Steve wrote:
pete wrote:
Basically I would divide 3 sections

Offense Scorers
Key Defenders (CB/LB/SF)
K/P

Now assign RB/QB/WR first
Add a decent (if possible) key defense
fill K/P
do the other positions...

The more guys there are per positon group, the later I would assign them
Just my opinion


Interesting, I would have though the DL would rank higher.

Steve
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IMO you have to score points...if you score enough, the defense does not matter

DL and OL are 3-5 each on the field, and you wont have that many good players for those positions, this is why I did not care about

Dont know if this makes any sense


Ahh, but this is what makes this sim fun, you can have multiple ways to build a team and win! I, even before this season in the NFL, prefer the way the SF Niners have won. That is a fantastic defense and a decent offense. It is the mindset you prefer.
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posted: 2012-01-17 22:09:44 (ID: 24485) Report Abuse
as for the coaches, i went for a "brute force" team.

so very close OL- - >RB- - >DL- - >LB, and a decent FB coach.
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posted: 2012-01-17 22:11:37 (ID: 24486) Report Abuse
sfniner08 wrote:
pete wrote:
Solana_Steve wrote:
pete wrote:
Basically I would divide 3 sections

Offense Scorers
Key Defenders (CB/LB/SF)
K/P

Now assign RB/QB/WR first
Add a decent (if possible) key defense
fill K/P
do the other positions...

The more guys there are per positon group, the later I would assign them
Just my opinion


Interesting, I would have though the DL would rank higher.

Steve
SD Blitz


IMO you have to score points...if you score enough, the defense does not matter

DL and OL are 3-5 each on the field, and you wont have that many good players for those positions, this is why I did not care about

Dont know if this makes any sense


Ahh, but this is what makes this sim fun, you can have multiple ways to build a team and win! I, even before this season in the NFL, prefer the way the SF Niners have won. That is a fantastic defense and a decent offense. It is the mindset you prefer.


I'm going completely the opposite from Pete view!!!
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