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slider6
posted: 2012-03-01 18:55:25 (ID: 30843) Report Abuse
Lee1950 wrote:
Admin wrote:
slider6 wrote:
Lee1950 wrote:
I believe Medium and Long passes have a dramatic (and unpleasant) impact on your INT rate.

I'm pretty sure I only have PASS on my playbook, not medium or long called out. So, what is going to help lower INTs with my QB? Strength to get the ball there quicker? Vision to see more clearly? Passing to throw more accurate? All of the above?


More: you forget about the receiver, and his ability to stick with the route on the field...and you can't do anything against the defender skills like vision obviously

Admin is reminding us again that every action in the game is affected by more than one skill. And normally it compares values for more than one player.

So INT's? My guess (listed in weighted order) as to what might happen:

- QB skills: Intel, Vision, Passing
- Rec skills: (Speed?), Positioning, Catching
- Defender skills: (Speed?), Vision, Catching

QB skills determine if the pass is On-target or Off-target.

Rec skills determine whether he catches an On-target pass (and perhaps his Speed, Agility, or Catching allows him a chance to reach the Off-target pass?)

Defender skills determine whether the On-target pass is caught, dropped, intercepted

Defender skills determine whether an Off-target pass is intercepted.

Interesting theory you have there Lee. By your account, Passing & Catching aren't the main skills for QB & WR respectively.
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Lee1950
posted: 2012-03-01 18:56:30 (ID: 30844) Report Abuse
slider6 wrote:Quick Question: WR Route Running... Footwork?

My vote = Positioning (and maybe a little Speed? Intel?)
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Swordpriest1
posted: 2012-03-01 19:01:04 (ID: 30848) Report Abuse
ok.. I'm glad for this thread. I'm actually online at the time of one of my games and now I get a chance to see how it plays out.

MY GOD my punter sucks. i'm looking at him cost me a game in realtime! He hasn't putted the ball over 16yds... I swear he punted the ball backwards and awarded the team a touchdown.

i'm not punting the ball anymore until i get someone back here who is alive. I'm serious about that.
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Swordpriest1
posted: 2012-03-01 19:05:46 (ID: 30851) Report Abuse
oh hell no... I've been meaning to try the strategy of no punting/fg. I've got an excuse now.

Clint Pickett P 11 11 176 23 16
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slider6
posted: 2012-03-01 19:11:18 (ID: 30855) Report Abuse
Swordpriest1 wrote:
oh hell no... I've been meaning to try the strategy of no punting/fg. I've got an excuse now.

Clint Pickett P 11 11 176 23 16

Is this normal for him? Did he just have a bad game?

If you don't mind, post his attributes and we can compare with my punter.
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Swordpriest1
posted: 2012-03-01 19:57:31 (ID: 30874) Report Abuse
slider6 wrote:
Swordpriest1 wrote:
oh hell no... I've been meaning to try the strategy of no punting/fg. I've got an excuse now.

Clint Pickett P 11 11 176 23 16

Is this normal for him? Did he just have a bad game?

If you don't mind, post his attributes and we can compare with my punter.


just looked at the last 5 games... 16yd per punt avg. his punt skill is 17 (recent YA call up)
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slider6
posted: 2012-03-01 20:02:47 (ID: 30875) Report Abuse
Swordpriest1 wrote:
slider6 wrote:
Swordpriest1 wrote:
oh hell no... I've been meaning to try the strategy of no punting/fg. I've got an excuse now.

Clint Pickett P 11 11 176 23 16

Is this normal for him? Did he just have a bad game?

If you don't mind, post his attributes and we can compare with my punter.


just looked at the last 5 games... 16yd per punt avg. his punt skill is 17 (recent YA call up)

OK, I assume his Team Chemistry is low, that could have a little to do with it. 17 isn't horrible, but I'm sure you are putting 90% of training into it.

My punter has 32 strength & 26 punting. He's averaging 31.8 yards over 20 punts this season and 28.9 yards over 399 punts on his career.
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Swordpriest1
posted: 2012-03-01 22:19:17 (ID: 30905) Report Abuse
slider6 wrote:
Swordpriest1 wrote:
slider6 wrote:
Swordpriest1 wrote:
oh hell no... I've been meaning to try the strategy of no punting/fg. I've got an excuse now.

Clint Pickett P 11 11 176 23 16

Is this normal for him? Did he just have a bad game?

If you don't mind, post his attributes and we can compare with my punter.


just looked at the last 5 games... 16yd per punt avg. his punt skill is 17 (recent YA call up)

OK, I assume his Team Chemistry is low, that could have a little to do with it. 17 isn't horrible, but I'm sure you are putting 90% of training into it.

My punter has 32 strength & 26 punting. He's averaging 31.8 yards over 20 punts this season and 28.9 yards over 399 punts on his career.


yeah.. his TC is 40%. couple that with a 17 in punting.... 16yrd avg seem right? I mean he's a 4 1/2 * talent so I'm not dropping dude but he's not gonna butcher my team like he did today.
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Lee1950
posted: 2012-03-01 23:39:08 (ID: 30914) Report Abuse
slider6 wrote:
Interesting theory you have there Lee. By your account, Passing & Catching aren't the main skills for QB & WR respectively.

Well, I was trying to describe my guess how Interceptions happen.

I'd say Passing has the biggest influence in determining On-target or Off-target. (btw - On-target/Off-target are just my terms - no idea how Admin really makes the magic happen).

Off-target passes are likely the cause of most INTs. So WR skills have no impact when the ball is in the wrong place (probably - maybe there's some chance he can get to it - kinda depends on whether there is a sliding scale for bad passes. A bit Off-target or a lot Off-target. I could see a chance for a WR with good Catching and/or Vision and/or Agility skills to get to a pass just a bit Off-target.) It all depends on how Admin modeled passing and catching.

My uneducated guess is there's some chance for an interception even with an On-target pass. So that's where I'd expect Positioning and Catching (maybe Strength?) to come into play.
- Is the WR where he's supposed to be?
- How successful is he catching the On-target pass?
- In the defender in better position?

All those may or may not be factors in determining INTs.

Last edited on 2012-03-01 23:41:45 by Lee1950

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alexshans84
posted: 2012-03-02 06:53:06 (ID: 30932) Report Abuse
Lee1950 wrote:
slider6 wrote:
Interesting theory you have there Lee. By your account, Passing & Catching aren't the main skills for QB & WR respectively.

Well, I was trying to describe my guess how Interceptions happen.

I'd say Passing has the biggest influence in determining On-target or Off-target. (btw - On-target/Off-target are just my terms - no idea how Admin really makes the magic happen).

Off-target passes are likely the cause of most INTs. So WR skills have no impact when the ball is in the wrong place (probably - maybe there's some chance he can get to it - kinda depends on whether there is a sliding scale for bad passes. A bit Off-target or a lot Off-target. I could see a chance for a WR with good Catching and/or Vision and/or Agility skills to get to a pass just a bit Off-target.) It all depends on how Admin modeled passing and catching.

My uneducated guess is there's some chance for an interception even with an On-target pass. So that's where I'd expect Positioning and Catching (maybe Strength?) to come into play.
- Is the WR where he's supposed to be?
- How successful is he catching the On-target pass?
- In the defender in better position?

All those may or may not be factors in determining INTs.


I'm not guessing I believe in this:
"Interceptions
Involved skills:
QB: VIS, PAS, INT
DEF: VIS, POS, INT
WR: VIS, POS, INT
If the interception check comes up positive for the defense, there is a tackle chance for the offensive players, for each of the guys on field that are fast enough (SPE) to catch the defender before he enters the end zone. If the tackle is missed (TAC and STR mainly) by all of the offensive guys the defender scores."
Looks like VIS is the most important skill related INT's

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