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NYDOGS
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posted: 2012-03-01 18:35:58 (ID: 30832) Report Abuse |
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A game without a TM would be boring for many users (I'm quite sure of this)
I won't speak about the bi issue... This is another problem The only problem here is the amount for what players are bought which seem so high and unrealistic... Moreover you're quite frustrated to see always the same teams having the "best players"... But it's not an issue to see biggest teams going better and better... That's the logic way, don't be jealous... Right now, the game is new but in few years, the managers playing big TM will face serious downsides... And nobody knows if this strategy is sustainable in the long-term: 1- You increase drastically your wages... 2- If you spend more than 100M a year, I can only advise you to don't miss the Playoffs or you'll be in serious trouble soon. 3- In some years, the teams in 1.1 will be more and more competitive and the draft order will have a real impact as being 32nd to pick will be a real disadvantage when all teams will scout the draftees... Concerning, the prices, sure it's so high (and I know that many are comparing with other games  ) but nobody complaints about the ridiculously high revenues (8.7 millions a game, WOW)... So it's just a matter of scale... If we compare the percentage of revenue which costs a player, I'm not sure that it's so far from other games...
And finally, in my mind, if you cannot have an edge being an older manager (doing a good job), the career mode is pointless... We should just play all in Power Mode and having only our Playbook and DC to fulfill... Just keep cool, and let the time shows us if TM is such the best strategy... I'm waiting for the first YA results, Wages increase and so on before making my mind... I just let people buying high and losing money in outbidding most of the time  |
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sfniner08
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posted: 2012-03-01 18:43:09 (ID: 30834) Report Abuse |
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NYDOGS wrote:
A game without a TM would be boring for many users (I'm quite sure of this) I won't speak about the bi issue... This is another problem The only problem here is the amount for what players are bought which seem so high and unrealistic... Moreover you're quite frustrated to see always the same teams having the "best players"... But it's not an issue to see biggest teams going better and better... That's the logic way, don't be jealous... Right now, the game is new but in few years, the managers playing big TM will face serious downsides... And nobody knows if this strategy is sustainable in the long-term: 1- You increase drastically your wages... 2- If you spend more than 100M a year, I can only advise you to don't miss the Playoffs or you'll be in serious trouble soon. 3- In some years, the teams in 1.1 will be more and more competitive and the draft order will have a real impact as being 32nd to pick will be a real disadvantage when all teams will scout the draftees... Concerning, the prices, sure it's so high (and I know that many are comparing with other games ) but nobody complaints about the ridiculously high revenues (8.7 millions a game, WOW)... So it's just a matter of scale... If we compare the percentage of revenue which costs a player, I'm not sure that it's so far from other games...
And finally, in my mind, if you cannot have an edge being an older manager (doing a good job), the career mode is pointless... We should just play all in Power Mode and having only our Playbook and DC to fulfill... Just keep cool, and let the time shows us if TM is such the best strategy... I'm waiting for the first YA results, Wages increase and so on before making my mind... I just let people buying high and losing money in outbidding most of the time Absolutley! I just proposed something to find a middle ground. |
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Swordpriest1
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posted: 2012-03-01 18:44:58 (ID: 30835) Report Abuse |
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Being one of the main critics of the TM... I think I can say comfortably that no single discussion has been had on dissolving the TM. In of itself I think the TM is a fantastic idea (one of the things that drew me to the game in the first place).. its the implementation of it that some of us have issue with.
there are many tweaks and augments proposed to help in way the TM functions.. but no one is proposing that we just do away with it. |
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Turtlemania
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posted: 2012-03-01 18:47:09 (ID: 30836) Report Abuse |
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Swordpriest1 wrote:its the implementation of it that some of us have issue with.
Maybe this is the point and ask first and see if the majority has a problem with the current TM system?!? |
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NYDOGS
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posted: 2012-03-01 18:47:41 (ID: 30837) Report Abuse |
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Swordpriest1 wrote:
Being one of the main critics of the TM... I think I can say comfortably that no single discussion has been had on dissolving the TM. In of itself I think the TM is a fantastic idea (one of the things that drew me to the game in the first place).. its the implementation of it that some of us have issue with. there are many tweaks and augments proposed to help in way the TM functions.. but no one is proposing that we just do away with it.  It wasn't the main point of my message (and you're right).
But I think that we are debating on outcome that we don't know as the game isn't far enough in term of seasons and that the prices are not so high when you compare with revenues |
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sfniner08
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posted: 2012-03-01 18:55:08 (ID: 30842) Report Abuse |
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Consider the speed of how fast you can build a stadium vs other games. That is maybe why it feels like prices are so high, but compared to the income coming in, it might not be so high.
With an average coaching staff in terms of wages and an average salary right now for players and all things upgraded to max I will net 90 million a season conservatively. That doesn't include playoffs and fanshop. Although I am beginning to question the effectiveness of the fanshop with so much money coming in right now. That would stay the same IF my player salaries didn't increase... Today I pay under 200k an u p d a t e for player wages. If I had a roster with 50 players with a skill at 40 I would pay over 4 million an update. So now at 4 million an u p d a t e times 22 updates that is 88 million on wages. Now my cushion is considerable smaller. If you were to save up now...then you would always be able to outbid those who are blowing money left and right. |
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Lee1950
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posted: 2012-03-01 19:15:31 (ID: 30858) Report Abuse |
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A poll on the TM would be useful.
imo, it doesn't matter what bidding mechanism RZA uses - prices for elite players on the TM will continue to be $40M+. And probably $25M+ for other draftees on the TM. The managers that want those players will get the bidding there one way or another. And that's fine. That's how it works. Really - the only negative to the present system occurs when you are willing to spend ANY amount to own a player, and you can't be online to sit for 30+ minutes while another manager who wants the same guy at ANY price keeps bidding. (Proving your manhood can be very expensive.) If you set a maximum amount you are willing to spend, you have enough time to get his price up to that level before his deadline. - for instance, recently I was willing to go to $30M for a CB, Valach. I made sure I boosted bids 150% on him every single time I could to get him to $30M before the deadline. He went for $40M+ and that's fine with me, because he wasn't worth more than $30M to me. |
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sfniner08
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posted: 2012-03-01 19:23:52 (ID: 30863) Report Abuse |
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I wanted that CB, but didn't have enough. He was the number one rated cb by me for my draft...
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Lee1950
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posted: 2012-03-01 20:14:02 (ID: 30880) Report Abuse |
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sfniner08 wrote:
I wanted that CB, but didn't have enough. He was the number one rated cb by me for my draft... Only 44 Speed, though, so not an elite CB - but a darn fine SF! |
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andrew2scott2
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posted: 2012-03-01 20:42:51 (ID: 30888) Report Abuse |
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I agree that the current system is good overall the only real to down falls is
A fixable the minimal bid need some sort of increase after the bids hit so much.That way quicking the bid war for those people who want to bid only the minimal. Even if you would use 10% of the perious bid so that it would be still 1000 until it went over 10000 B got to just live with it Time issue have to be only online when the bid end. Last edited on 2012-03-01 20:48:45 by andrew2scott2 |
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