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sfniner08
posted: 2012-03-14 19:40:37 (ID: 32569) Report Abuse
My gut reaction to this would be yes, however, the more I looked and thought about it...the more I think talent is over rated here.

Financially consider the following:

A max stadium will command a revenue of 135 million for league and super cup games (regular season).

You draw in about 8 to 10 million..ish for sponsor money.

Playoff games obviously bring in additional funds, but I can't use that for this example as you can't always count on those games especially in 1.1 leagues.

So far the Fanshop hasn't really given me a huge return on money, but I'm going to make up a number for argument sake. 5 million in a season. I think that is way above, but that is just me.

You will make some money with friendlies. Let's put a number out there of 10 million.

So a maximumish of 160 million in revenue plus post season.


Now the costs:
Stadium maint. is just under 12 million.
Facility maint. is around 8 million?
I think I have an average coach staff for wages at 32 million for the season.

So that is 52 million in costs outside of player salaries.

So 160 in revenue subtract 52 in costs is 108 million in revenue to pay salaries. Sounds like a lot, right?

A player with a skill at 40 would earn 88,000. Times 60 players on a roster would be 5.3 million per update. 22 updates times 5.3 million is 116.5 million.

So now we are in the hole by over 8 million a season. Playoffs would then get you above and you would be ok.

Say you stay above the profit line by a million a season, somehow. You would then not have the resources to add players from the TM.

So is it feasible to have a roster of players with a top skill of 40? No.

Now, look at the talent to skill cap chart below...

Talent (stars) Skill capped at
0.5 36.5
1.0 38
1.5 39.5
2.0 41.0
2.5 42.5
3.0 44.0
3.5 45.5
4.0 47.0
4.5 48.5
5.0 50

At 2.0 you have the cap of 41. You couldn't really afford to have a team of all 2 talent players who are capped in skill. Why on earth do we continue to try and stock up on 3.5 and higher talent? So we can gain 4.5 sp (a 2 to a 3.5)? That little jump in salary is significant...a player who is 2 talent 41 sp would make 2.3 million a season whereas the 3.5 talent guy would make about 4.6 million. A 5 talent player with 50 sp would make about 11 million a season.

I think a balance should exist where you have your 4 and 5 talent players as your superstar cornerstones, then the 3 to 4 star talent should be the starter material, and then 2 to 3 are starter to backups (3rd, 4th, 5th cb, 3,4,5 wr, and so on).

In my opinion more than 40 players on your team at 4 talent and higher is useless as you can't afford to maximize their skill cap at the same time.


Ready, aim, fire away at the idea!
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Turtlemania
posted: 2012-03-14 19:47:03 (ID: 32571) Report Abuse
sfniner08 wrote:
Ready, aim, fire away at the idea!




I hate you for this post!

Fact:

Same thoughts here as long one thing is not confirmed by Admins

But i will keep it for me and wait if other come up with this question and dare to ask

Last edited on 2012-03-14 19:47:59 by Turtlemania

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sfniner08
posted: 2012-03-14 19:47:45 (ID: 32572) Report Abuse
People would figure it out sooner or later. lol.
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NYDOGS
posted: 2012-03-14 19:47:49 (ID: 32573) Report Abuse
Turtlemania wrote:
sfniner08 wrote:
Ready, aim, fire away at the idea!




I hate you for this post!




I don't really care about talent...

Last edited on 2012-03-14 19:48:32 by NYDOGS

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sfniner08
posted: 2012-03-14 19:48:59 (ID: 32574) Report Abuse
Oh the love!

Perhaps it could change the TM and how it works?
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Admin

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posted: 2012-03-14 19:54:39 (ID: 32576)
This is the first thread I would like to hide before more people read this stuff
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Turtlemania
posted: 2012-03-14 19:55:52 (ID: 32578) Report Abuse
sfniner08 wrote:
Oh the love!

Perhaps it could change the TM and how it works?


sure it could! So how shall i sell in future the high talent guys

The good thing and sorry for you: You write, you share, only few will listen
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sfniner08
posted: 2012-03-14 19:56:15 (ID: 32579) Report Abuse
Admin wrote:
This is the first thread I would like to hide before more people read this stuff


Yes, but perhaps this will quell the people who are concerned there is too much money available right now?
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Buffalo
posted: 2012-03-14 19:57:37 (ID: 32581) Report Abuse
With the HR-Department you can give a player with skills at 40 a deal for 3 years and than train him, without a wage increase. You can't do this with a 2* Talent player.

For a backup, which will never have more then 30...35....40 is 2* of Talent definitly enough. But not for a starter.
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Turtlemania
posted: 2012-03-14 19:57:42 (ID: 32582) Report Abuse
Admin wrote:
This is the first thread I would like to hide before more people read this stuff



Much easier without intervention: we "spam" this thread with some quotes and statements so the thread itself will be become unintertsing to read for others

So now fire at me
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