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sh8888
posted: 2012-04-25 09:31:54 (ID: 37265) Report Abuse
Do you think Strength is important for a Cornerback ? and if so how would you rate strength in relative importance to other skills required for a cornerback ?

I've got a 24 year old who has just red-capped in speed, I think his speed is fine for a CB on my team at the moment ...in future, if I get any better CB's I could move this guy to Safety...but for now I'm wondering whether to boost his strength which is pretty low or whether to concentrate on his tackling (which is pretty good) or his vision (which is OK).
I've never been convinced that agility is required for a Cornerback in this game....unless somebody knows something different ?

What would you do next ?

btw ...the "cost" aspect doesn't really bother me as he's got a medium-length contract so it doesn't really matter whether I'm training "free" skills (strength) or "cost" skills (tackling etc) .... I'm more interested in which skills will have the most immediate impact.
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alexshans84
posted: 2012-04-25 09:53:22 (ID: 37266) Report Abuse
IMO, CBs need strength to successfully tackle opponents. I think STR 30-35 is enough for this position. But I train my CBs at speed, tackling, vision and then at strength.
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Buffalo
posted: 2012-04-25 09:53:56 (ID: 37267) Report Abuse
I would train him in Vision and Tackling first, before training his strenght. Strenght is von CB not so important, like for WR. If oyu train him someday to 30-35 is might be ok.
Agility is the most underrated skill, I think. For RB and WR it is clear that they need it. I think it could be also usefull for OL, DL, LB, CB and SF. But it is a skill you can train, when the primary and secondary skills are >30.
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Tarjan
posted: 2012-04-25 10:00:40 (ID: 37268) Report Abuse
alexshans84 wrote:
IMO, CBs need strength to successfully tackle opponents. I think STR 30-35 is enough for this position. But I train my CBs at speed, tackling, vision and then at strength.


Same way here, agility is something i am interessted in Offenseplayers only (except the Oline)
Reason? I looked at the Draftees and all Skilled Positions on Offense had higher Agility, on Defense it looked like Vision is much more important than Agility.
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sh8888
posted: 2012-04-25 10:01:29 (ID: 37269) Report Abuse
Buffalo wrote:
Agility is the most underrated skill, I think.


In a general sense, I agree totally with this. In another thread I am constantly trying to get a definitive answer on where the low/high caps are for agility ..but no luck so far ! maybe nobody knows, or maybe they just want to keep secrets as a secret ....but in the specific case of Cornerbacks the agility averages for Draft Cornerbacks are so low it seems to suggest that Agility is no big deal for CB's ...or maybe I'm being too simplistic ?
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Buffalo
posted: 2012-04-25 10:10:47 (ID: 37270) Report Abuse
Tarjan wrote:
I looked at the Draftees and all Skilled Positions on Offense had higher Agility, on Defense it looked like Vision is much more important than Agility.


I think that Draftees have not all usefull skills in the range of 20-25. YOu can look at FB on the draftboard and their carrying is low, but I think every one would agree, that carrying is more than usefull for them.
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Tarjan
posted: 2012-04-25 10:20:00 (ID: 37271) Report Abuse
Sure, but if i got to Train Physicals i go with Speed/Strength first Agi is the last i train, so for a CB i would train speed max first, than Tackling up to 30-35, than Vision to 30, than strenght to 30-35 and then if there is still Time in his Carrer i would go with Agilty to 25 then raise tackling to max and Vision to max

But as i see it perhaps 1 of my CB will ever get the benefit of getting trained to max out Tackling or even Vision, first of all they are so bad and second they are to old

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sh8888
posted: 2012-04-25 10:21:21 (ID: 37272) Report Abuse
Buffalo wrote:
Tarjan wrote:
I looked at the Draftees and all Skilled Positions on Offense had higher Agility, on Defense it looked like Vision is much more important than Agility.


I think that Draftees have not all usefull skills in the range of 20-25. YOu can look at FB on the draftboard and their carrying is low, but I think every one would agree, that carrying is more than usefull for them.


Yes and No .... if you were careful in picking formations where the RB's are the ball carriers (Pro Set for example), then carrying isn't a big deal ...but doing that is very restrictive and as you say a FB with high carrying can be a very destructive offensive weapon in the right circumstances.

Just out of interest ....I know of one team in RZA that is primarily a running team, is a good team but actually has NO Runningbacks on his senior roster, he just runs out of formations that run with the fullback ...I'm not necessarily recommending this as a strategy, but I mentioned it because when I noticed it I did find it both unusual and quite interesting.

but I don't want to hijack my own thread with a RB vs FB running discussion !

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Tarjan
posted: 2012-04-25 10:25:37 (ID: 37273) Report Abuse
Forget to Mention Positioning to 20-25 bevor going with Agility
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alexshans84
posted: 2012-04-25 10:38:50 (ID: 37274) Report Abuse
Buffalo wrote:
You can look at FB on the draftboard and their carrying is low, but I think every one would agree, that carrying is more than usefull for them.


Sorry, but IMO it's not the best example. FB (in Shotgun formations) is designed to be a pass blocker, but actually in our mostly "heavy rushing" game FB is often a leading rusher of a team. I think it's an exploit at some extent and not reflects the "core of position"
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