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posted: 2012-05-14 18:10:15 (ID: 39960) Report Abuse
So is the only real different in this formation (from a game perspective), is that the FB is center rather than left?

Or does a QB in shotgun formation have some additional effect on perhaps not getting sacked or being harder to run out of?


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posted: 2012-05-14 18:14:58 (ID: 39962) Report Abuse
Yes, it isn't a true goal line offense and it is just like the shotgun except for the fb and qb placements.

When I think of a goal line offense I think 5 OL, 1 QB, 2 TE, FB, RB, WR
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posted: 2012-05-14 18:48:39 (ID: 39971) Report Abuse
The problem right now is, that the FB doesn't block on rushing plays.
So, a goal line formation would be more effective if it was played with a RB instead of the FB. I think the average RB is better suited for short-yardage rushes than the average FB.
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posted: 2012-05-14 18:50:02 (ID: 39972) Report Abuse
There is a difference on the "zones" and "distance to LOS" for each player
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posted: 2012-05-14 18:55:58 (ID: 39975) Report Abuse
It's a false assumption that being close to the LOS is good in a rushing play.

Typically, an effective rushing play from the pro set formation is for the FB to line up on the right, the HB on the left, and for them to run sweep right utilising the block of the TE and FB, and commonly pulling Guards too....

Running outside (sweep) right to a RB lining up on the right reduces available blockers, requires a pitch of the football (much more risky than a handoff), and commonly sees the RB running directly into the path of an unblocked LB.
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posted: 2012-05-14 20:02:04 (ID: 39989) Report Abuse
sfniner08 wrote:
Yes, it isn't a true goal line offense and it is just like the shotgun except for the fb and qb placements.

When I think of a goal line offense I think 5 OL, 1 QB, 2 TE, FB, RB, WR


or swap the WR for a 3rd TE
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posted: 2012-05-14 20:04:54 (ID: 39993) Report Abuse
mikemike778 wrote:
sfniner08 wrote:
Yes, it isn't a true goal line offense and it is just like the shotgun except for the fb and qb placements.

When I think of a goal line offense I think 5 OL, 1 QB, 2 TE, FB, RB, WR


or swap the WR for a 3rd TE


Only 1 TE allowed per side, sorry
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posted: 2012-05-14 22:36:43 (ID: 40035) Report Abuse
pete wrote:
There is a difference on the "zones" and "distance to LOS" for each player


So distance to the LOS has an effect too...okay...thanks.


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posted: 2012-05-15 16:05:53 (ID: 40180) Report Abuse
Solana_Steve wrote:
pete wrote:
There is a difference on the "zones" and "distance to LOS" for each player


So distance to the LOS has an effect too...okay...thanks.


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I wanted to ask the same. Thanks for clarifying. May I ask one more thing please?

In the goalline O, an adjusted "distance to LOS" means

a) generally better outcomes when running and worse outcome when passing?
Or does it mean rather
b) better outcomes in running AND passing when being inside the red zone?

And likewise, is goalline D only beneficial inside the 20, or could it also be effectively used throughout when playing a run-heavy team?

Last edited on 2012-05-15 18:19:42 by Toni Gorilla

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posted: 2012-05-15 17:22:10 (ID: 40196) Report Abuse
I don’t know for sure, but Shotgun is typically a passing formation whereby the QB doesn’t have to drop back. I would guess it has the following effect:

1. FB starting farther back so probably would hurt his running changes.
2. QB starting farther back, so he’d be more difficult to sack. Perhaps some advantage to field vision too.

Just my guess…

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