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posted: 2012-09-22 21:02:29 (ID: 58239) Report Abuse
Lee1950 wrote:
pete wrote:
Buffalo wrote:
pete wrote:
even in midseason


If you enable it in the midseason, what happen than with the Supercup? Do Div 3 have no supercup games for the season?
yes, exactly

Slightly off topic - do you plan to expand the present Supercup to include Div 3 (and eventually Div 4?) teams, or are thinking of starting a separate Supercup competition for Div 3? Supercup junior?


All go the same...
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posted: 2012-09-22 21:35:14 (ID: 58247) Report Abuse
pete wrote:
Lee1950 wrote:
pete wrote:
Buffalo wrote:
pete wrote:
even in midseason


If you enable it in the midseason, what happen than with the Supercup? Do Div 3 have no supercup games for the season?
yes, exactly

Slightly off topic - do you plan to expand the present Supercup to include Div 3 (and eventually Div 4?) teams, or are thinking of starting a separate Supercup competition for Div 3? Supercup junior?


All go the same...


so expect 300+ undefeated supercup teams fighting for 48 spots in the playoffs
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posted: 2012-09-22 21:37:01 (ID: 58249) Report Abuse
Monkey wrote:
pete wrote:
Lee1950 wrote:
pete wrote:
Buffalo wrote:
pete wrote:
even in midseason


If you enable it in the midseason, what happen than with the Supercup? Do Div 3 have no supercup games for the season?
yes, exactly

Slightly off topic - do you plan to expand the present Supercup to include Div 3 (and eventually Div 4?) teams, or are thinking of starting a separate Supercup competition for Div 3? Supercup junior?


All go the same...


so expect 300+ undefeated supercup teams fighting for 48 spots in the playoffs


yes, exactly.

This is the reason I did never understood all the fuss about the supercup. It could be much worse than today...
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Lee1950
posted: 2012-09-22 23:16:18 (ID: 58259) Report Abuse
You've got it set up so even if there are 100+ 15-0 teams, there is a rule for deciding who goes to the playoffs, so

How about reducing the revenue from Supercup games by 5% or 10%?

New teams still get a big boost to revenue compared to Season 1 of the Supercup, and it would help manage the economy a little bit. As the game grows, and the number of Supercup divisions multiplies, these games will more and more look/feel like exhibitions because the number of mis-matches will expand. So a slight drop in attendance revenues might make sense.
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posted: 2012-09-23 08:44:26 (ID: 58287) Report Abuse
Cutting the income is not very wise IMO.

When you carry a full developed roster you will be thankful for these 15 games. More or less we need things to reduce the income, to spend money, as long as you are not carrying a top roster
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posted: 2012-09-23 10:02:50 (ID: 58301) Report Abuse
Only 1 bot in Admirals 2.2 yesterday.

Once the third tier is opened we do need to look at opening the supercup to more teams. The elite competition is the CoC otherwise it wouldnt be called the Champions of Champions Cup. It will soon be easier to qualify for that than it will the playoffs in the supercup
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posted: 2012-10-01 12:47:36 (ID: 59399) Report Abuse
Peter, maybe I miss something here, but I have two questions, because of this:

If you add a 3rd level to the game you get 8 (# leagues names) *2 (# leagues per league name on level 2) *2 (# leagues per leaguelevel 2 league) * 32 (# teams) = 1024 new teams with one step or more than double of the existing 768 teams.

First question: can you add a third level per league name, so maybe only expend 1 or 2 leagues? That would add of cause much less teams and would make the playing more fun from my point of view.

Second question: why don't you think about adding more league names?
The league names are fairly taken from the NFL Europe and there are a lot more names not beeing used.

NFL-Europe teams:
Amsterdam Admirals
Barcelona Dragons
Berlin Thunder
Cologne Centurions
Frankfurt Galaxy
Hamburg Sea Devils
London/England Monarchs
Rhein Fire
Scottish Claymores

Name open: Centurions.

Or we dig even deeper, World League Teams:
London Monarchs
Barcelona Dragons
Frankfurt Galaxy
New York/New Jersey Knights
Orlando Thunder
Montreal Machine
Raleigh-Durham Skyhawks
Ohio Glory
Birmingham Fire
San Antonio Riders
Sacramento Surge

Names open: Knights, Machine, Skyhawks, Glory, Riders and Surge.

Would be 7 more names and by that less teams to add, if you just add level 1 and 2.
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posted: 2012-10-01 14:05:14 (ID: 59402) Report Abuse
This means I would have to recheck all existing math regarding promotion, releagtion, supercup scheduling and playoffs and some more.

And if I do that, I need to add 8 regions, which means 768 teams...Based on the majority of the users I doubt we can fill leagues having their kickoff at 4am GMT as example. And, it kills my maintenance window, too.

Lot's of trouble.

The same answer is valid for adding a third league level only for a few of our already existing regions.

And, at the moment we are stable at around 670 users, this peek we have seen the last 3 weeks is the typical NFL season opener. You see many fantasy league, opened, pick'ems arranged...most of them don't survive the first 2 gamedays I see no need for the moment, to add another leaguelevel or region. Agree?
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posted: 2012-10-01 15:16:59 (ID: 59404) Report Abuse
I agree.

I just thought adding a few hundred would mean more fun for the new ones and less bot spam, but of cause I don't know the whole impact.
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posted: 2012-10-13 23:30:12 (ID: 61542) Report Abuse
Will div 3.x be implemented before next season?

Current available spots in 2.x:
Admirals - 5
Claymore - 2
Dragons - 2
Fire - 7
Galaxy - 2
Monarchs - 5
Sea Devils - 8
Thunder - 4
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