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Turtlemania
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posted: 2011-09-14 13:16:54 (ID: 10110) Report Abuse |
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Still problem understand how defence work
So i have an example Team A -> plays all the time Big-I Pass Team B -> setting on Big-I -> Pass: 3-4-4 Rush: 5-2 Prefer: Rush So what happens? At beginning Team B plays 5-2 i think because prefer Rush defend formation But if i understood right Team B will learn Team A always play Big-I with Pass and so they will change to Pass defend formation 3-4-4 Correct? And if correct -> when will it happen? So how many plays need Team B to learn Team A playing formation in this example? |
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posted: 2011-09-14 14:14:46 (ID: 10117) |
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Turtlemania wrote:
Still problem understand how defence work So i have an example Team A -> plays all the time Big-I Pass Team B -> setting on Big-I -> Pass: 3-4-4 Rush: 5-2 Prefer: Rush So what happens? At beginning Team B plays 5-2 i think because prefer Rush defend formation But if i understood right Team B will learn Team A always play Big-I with Pass and so they will change to Pass defend formation 3-4-4 Correct? And if correct -> when will it happen? So how many plays need Team B to learn Team A playing formation in this example? Correct, and a soon as the number of pass plays is more significant than the number of rush plays. in your example after 2 pass plays... |
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Turtlemania
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posted: 2011-09-14 14:19:37 (ID: 10118) Report Abuse |
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Easy declaration to understnad something looking very complex
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Turtlemania
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posted: 2011-09-16 12:41:18 (ID: 10405) Report Abuse |
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Correct, and a soon as the number of pass plays is more significant than the number of rush plays. in your example after 2 pass plays... Declaration easy to understand But are you sure system really works like this??? I say: NO! Here today game - just saw it while game running already - taking the first few I-Form attack by opponent (1) In the first attack system worked well - my setting was expect rush - it played my rush formation. So: Opponent I-Form: Rush 1 - Pass 0 Down ToGo DGL Off Form Off Play Deff Form Deff Expect 2 2 9 66 I-Form Rush 5-2 Rush OK (2) 3 3 2 59 I-Form Rush 3-3-5 Pass OK Failed Change? 9 2 2 30 I-Form Rush 3-3-5 Pass OK Failed Change? 11 2 9 12 I-Form Rush 3-3-5 Pass OK Failed Change? This are next 3 I-Form play by opponent - everytime he plays Rush - everytime my setting is expect pass Guess what... system always gets pass formation on the field BUT! After seconde play it was I-Form: Rush 2 vs. Pass 0 After trhird play it was I-Form: Rush 3 vs. Pass 0 After fourt play it was I-Form: Rush 4 vs. Pass 0 So i think this is significant - or not? 4 vs 0 is significant, for me even 3 vs. 0 is significant When reading your explanation even 2 vs. 0 is significant But system always playd pass formation - didnt "learned" that opponent is rushing So what is the error? My thinking or he system? |
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posted: 2011-09-16 12:49:48 (ID: 10406) Report Abuse |
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One more note
When the 4th time opponent plays I-Formation it is the 11 play of him And all 11 plays are rush so even total count is Rush 11 vs. Pass 0 So this is also significant |
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Turtlemania
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posted: 2011-09-16 12:58:04 (ID: 10408) Report Abuse |
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Another weird i do not undrestand - happens several times:
1 and 10 to go on opp 47 Humberto Carmona (OC) snaps the ball to Paco Madrid (QB), who hands off to Carlos Sánchez (FB/R), this seems to be a rush over the center, there is no SS who could tackle him, finally he gets tackled by Toby Sumner (FS/C) Shotgun 4 WR vs. 5-3-3 Ok. 5DL Men fight with 5OLine Men FB rush over the center... systems tells me no SS to tackle him - fine this right, but i play 5-3-3 so what is the MLB doing? Sleeping? Not understandable to me. |
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posted: 2011-09-16 16:02:43 (ID: 10432) |
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Turtlemania wrote:
Another weird i do not undrestand - happens several times: 1 and 10 to go on opp 47 Humberto Carmona (OC) snaps the ball to Paco Madrid (QB), who hands off to Carlos Sánchez (FB/R), this seems to be a rush over the center, there is no SS who could tackle him, finally he gets tackled by Toby Sumner (FS/C) Shotgun 4 WR vs. 5-3-3 Ok. 5DL Men fight with 5OLine Men FB rush over the center... systems tells me no SS to tackle him - fine this right, but i play 5-3-3 so what is the MLB doing? Sleeping? Not understandable to me. Please have a reality check: is the MLB on each single player on the attacker and able for tackling? NO. It is the same here. Linemen and LB dont have a tackle chance on each single play, much more they would have it, but are not near enough on the attacker. The play by play would be 3 miles long if I would list all the single situations on the field, this is why you dont see the LB in there..Please check other plays, and you will find your MLB, I am sure. Dos this explain it to you? I will go into the play pass vs rush thing later, because I have to hurry now... |
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posted: 2011-09-16 16:27:39 (ID: 10434) Report Abuse |
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Please have a reality check: is the MLB on each single player on the attacker and able for tackling? NO. It is the same here. Linemen and LB dont have a tackle chance on each single play, much more they would have it, but are not near enough on the attacker. The play by play would be 3 miles long if I would list all the single situations on the field, this is why you dont see the LB in there.. I would take the 3 miles long log file just to check 
No problem maybe DLine is to soft and MLB to soft too so this could happen for sure. Its would be make easier if possible to download logfile so check who was on field on specific plays and count if some player make more errors than other or if its position specific (good tackler on DT but bad on DE) since missed tackles shows also only total Admin wrote:I will go into the play pass vs rush thing later, because I have to hurry now...
No problem good know you care and check for this for me this is more important to know for the moment thanks Please check other plays, and you will find your MLB, I am sure. Dos this explain it to you? I will go into the play pass vs rush thing later, because I have to hurry now... Last edited on 2011-09-16 16:28:04 by Turtlemania |
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