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alexshans84
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posted: 2012-08-15 09:32:52 (ID: 52422) Report Abuse |
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My congratulations to Skepie! You built strong team with distinctive football style
Thanks for the tough game! BTW here is an example how much may cost blitz vs equal opponent 
2 and 11 to go on own 48, Wiljan Janmaat (OC) snaps the ball to Ernard Grey (QB), Ernard Grey (QB) selected Aleksander Wojewoda (TE/R) as target, Filipp Sazonov (OLB/L) goes for the blitz, the pass goes inner right to the receiver, who catches the ball, Filipp Dedov (FS/L) missed the tackle, the result is a 52 yards pass, touchdown |
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canonico
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posted: 2012-08-15 16:32:22 (ID: 52470) Report Abuse |
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alexshans84 wrote:
My congratulations to Skepie! You built strong team with distinctive football style
Thanks for the tough game! BTW here is an example how much may cost blitz vs equal opponent
2 and 11 to go on own 48, Wiljan Janmaat (OC) snaps the ball to Ernard Grey (QB), Ernard Grey (QB) selected Aleksander Wojewoda (TE/R) as target, Filipp Sazonov (OLB/L) goes for the blitz, the pass goes inner right to the receiver, who catches the ball, Filipp Dedov (FS/L) missed the tackle, the result is a 52 yards pass, touchdown You mean to blitz agaisnt a strong Offensive Line that has a good QB and at least one solid WR. Aldo i don't think by blitzing the OLB in that play should cause for a 52 yard pass, can't blame the play calling, if you must blame, blame the FS who missed the tackle, and blame your secondary for the blown coverage.  |
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alexshans84
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posted: 2012-08-15 16:52:44 (ID: 52481) Report Abuse |
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Maybe I'm wrong but my understanding is that OLB/L is covering the "inner right pass" zone
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canonico
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posted: 2012-08-15 16:57:21 (ID: 52482) Report Abuse |
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alexshans84 wrote:
Maybe I'm wrong but my understanding is that OLB/L is covering the "inner right pass" zone Lol not in a 52 yards pass!!! Usualy he covers that area on Short passes because a LB cannot usually compete with the WR speed but this is in RL football, in RZA a LB might have 50 Speed and good agility and vision to see the pass while going at full speed with the WR, but I don't have them, so I assume after the 10 to 15 yard target is a job for the CB if the pass goes to the WR or a job for the SS or FS they are there to prevent and one missed a tackle in that play. But this depends on the defensive formation you use. |
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alexshans84
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posted: 2012-08-15 17:19:33 (ID: 52488) Report Abuse |
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I'm sure that it was not a long or even medium pass, so not more than 10 yds. At least 42 yds was gained after catch IMO
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canonico
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posted: 2012-08-15 17:31:34 (ID: 52491) Report Abuse |
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alexshans84 wrote:
I'm sure that it was not a long or even medium pass, so not more than 10 yds. At least 42 yds was gained after catch IMO Humm, this is all based on assuptions because sadly we do not have Yard After Carry Stats..yet. But if that is the case then I agree with you the missing OLB might have caused a big play, but still I would mostly blame the FS who missed a decisive tackle. Meaning your OLB goes to Blitz on a short pass play (Bad Call) QB has a quick release because he doesn't need to stay in the pocket along time to see the play unfold, OLB can't get to the QB, FS duty is to cover the man behind the OLB, which he does, but ultimately fails to make a tackle that would prevented the opposite team to gain 53 Yards, and would be a play for 9 to 10 yards. But this is assuming it was a 9 to 10 yard pass, which is in RZA a medium pass, i think. |
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alexshans84
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posted: 2012-08-15 17:39:22 (ID: 52493) Report Abuse |
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canonico
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posted: 2012-08-15 17:47:30 (ID: 52495) Report Abuse |
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Lol and Peter is agreeing with me pete wrote:
Here is the official answer 
Screen pass: behind the Line of Scrimmage Short: 0-10 yards over the Line of Scrimmage Medium: 10-20 yards over the Line of Scrimmage Deep: 20+ yards over the line of Scrimmage Please note: the distances mean the progress by the pass itself, not the carrying progress after the catch - this would be Yards after Catch (on ToDo). The yards for the Pass success in the stats are always "Progress from the line of Scrimmage to the end of the play... Could very well me a medium pass. A 10 yard pass is a medium pass! Or a very long Short pass. And as Pete states "the distances mean the progress by the pass itself, not the carrying progress after the catch." So based on that, do you thikn it was a 53 yards pass? Also Screen passes are also short passes because you don't have any other way of selecting to throw a screen pass unless you place pass on the playbook calling. So that is just like the "Short" pass, we don't have the option to s e l e c t "Short" pass. It's either Pass, Medium or Deep. |
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alexshans84
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posted: 2012-08-15 17:54:55 (ID: 52496) Report Abuse |
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canonico wrote:
And as Pete states "the distances mean the progress by the pass itself, not the carrying progress after the catch." So based on that, do you thikn it was a 53 yards pass? I think that "the distances mean the progress by the pass itself, not the carrying progress after the catch." is about these distances: Screen pass: behind the Line of Scrimmage Short: 0-10 yards over the Line of Scrimmage Medium: 10-20 yards over the Line of Scrimmage Deep: 20+ yards over the line of Scrimmage So I suppose it was a short pass  |
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canonico
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posted: 2012-08-15 17:58:38 (ID: 52499) Report Abuse |
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alexshans84 wrote:
I think that "the distances mean the progress by the pass itself, not the carrying progress after the catch." is about these distances: So I suppose it was a short pass Based on this description: 2 and 11 to go on own 48, Wiljan Janmaat (OC) snaps the ball to Ernard Grey (QB), Ernard Grey (QB) selected Aleksander Wojewoda (TE/R) as target, Filipp Sazonov (OLB/L) goes for the blitz, the pass goes inner right to the receiver, who catches the ball, Filipp Dedov (FS/L) missed the tackle, the result is a 52 yards pass, touchdown It was a 52 yards pass, which based on what Pete posted is a Deep Pass. |
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