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hosh13
posted: 2013-11-16 23:38:43 (ID: 100013695) Report Abuse
Templer wrote:
I am interested if the colleagues now come to the conclusion that your "expansion", your described "improvment" for the issue was successful and that now lopsided teams are easier to handle.


1/ It has had the desired effect a little but I don't like it.

2/ I think most teams have worked out that you need to use a min of 4 basic formations and the single back formations (and especially SG4WR) are thus not getting penalized at all and are still dominant when in use (again, esp SG4WR).

It is too easy to run in RZA with a FB and without blocking by FBs and TEs.

Not sure what the experience of others has been like, but the idea of using the I and Pro has disappeared for me - they seem clearly comparatively weak to the single back formations.

Last edited on 2013-11-16 23:40:35 by hosh13

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notsch
posted: 2013-11-17 09:25:33 (ID: 100013719) Report Abuse
hosh13 wrote:
2/ I think most teams have worked out that you need to use a min of 4 basic formations and the single back formations (and especially SG4WR) are thus not getting penalized at all and are still dominant when in use (again, esp SG4WR).

Not sure what the experience of others has been like, but the idea of using the I and Pro has disappeared for me - they seem clearly comparatively weak to the single back formations.


+1

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gtjohn
posted: 2013-11-17 09:54:46 (ID: 100013722) Report Abuse
Since the changes I have noticed that runs for me from the ProSet have increased massively, as have passes from Big I.....quite bizarre
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alexshans84
posted: 2013-12-18 15:51:20 (ID: 100016711) Report Abuse
From Thunder 1.1 Bowl match: Mantyla (WR) - 66 plays, 16 receptions, 155 yds, 1 TD, 1 dropped pass. Is it what they call "finding favourable matchups and exploiting it" or is it a lopsided tactic
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posted: 2013-12-18 16:05:28 (ID: 100016714) Report Abuse
alexshans84 wrote:
From Thunder 1.1 Bowl match: Mantyla (WR) - 66 plays, 16 receptions, 155 yds, 1 TD, 1 dropped pass. Is it what they call "finding favourable matchups and exploiting it" or is it a lopsided tactic


Jean-Noel Dalecký has 9 receptions and 5 drops. It wasn't like Mantyla was the only receiver being targeted (like G*I dark wing tactic).

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hosh13
posted: 2013-12-18 20:32:29 (ID: 100016741) Report Abuse
That's all from the SG formations with pass outside on every play, so those 2 WRs get the bulk of the action.
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posted: 2013-12-19 00:48:22 (ID: 100016764) Report Abuse
hosh13 wrote:
That's all from the SG formations with pass outside on every play, so those 2 WRs get the bulk of the action.


He's using several different formations, he's running and passing - - obviously he's got some directional settings selected. I guess there is a fine line between game strategy and lopsided tactics. Perhaps its in the eye of the beholder?

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JonnyP
posted: 2013-12-19 01:43:50 (ID: 100016769) Report Abuse
I'd say it's ok, as until the issues with MLBs being over powered in pass coverage, and pass catching RBs are sorted, the main 2 wideouts in any of the single back formations are likely to be the targets for most passes.

Even without specifying passing to both flanks, I would assume they get more targets, as they will be the best receivers on the team and intelligent QBs are supposed to try to target open receivers - they are more likely to be open (unless the opposition has 2 extremely good corners)
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Meitheisman
posted: 2013-12-19 02:37:28 (ID: 100016772) Report Abuse
Not sure if it's only my team and I'm doing something wrong with my WRs but I find the targets to be pretty evenly distributed, maybe even too well.

Adding catches and drops (which should give targets, right?) the numbers in the league for my team are like this.

WR1: 485 plays - 66 targets = 13.6%
WR2: 510 plays - 70 targets = 13.7%
WR3: 498 plays - 58 targets = 11.6%
WR4: 492 plays - 69 targets = 14.0%
WR5: 402 plays - 67 targets = 16.7%
WR6: 327 plays - 40 targets = 12.2%

If I had it my way #1 & 2 would be targeted more, probably #3 too but #5 is targetted way too often, ditto #6, they're more here for depth than anything and clearly aren't as good as the top 4 guys.
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canonico
posted: 2013-12-19 02:46:31 (ID: 100016775) Report Abuse
Meitheisman wrote:
Not sure if it's only my team and I'm doing something wrong with my WRs but I find the targets to be pretty evenly distributed, maybe even too well.

Adding catches and drops (which should give targets, right?) the numbers in the league for my team are like this.

WR1: 485 plays - 66 targets = 13.6%
WR2: 510 plays - 70 targets = 13.7%
WR3: 498 plays - 58 targets = 11.6%
WR4: 492 plays - 69 targets = 14.0%
WR5: 402 plays - 67 targets = 16.7%
WR6: 327 plays - 40 targets = 12.2%

If I had it my way #1 & 2 would be targeted more, probably #3 too but #5 is targetted way too often, ditto #6, they're more here for depth than anything and clearly aren't as good as the top 4 guys.



Not sure here, but perhaps it has to do with the fact that you don't let them play the whole game and replace them? Perhaps the teams that are able to target their #1 & #2 WR more are simply not substituiting them, and thus they have alot more chances to catch the ball. Just a guess.
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