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posted: 2026-03-23 20:45:23 (ID: 100198687) Report Abuse
also that leads me to bring up this: an RZA March Madness tournament where each group of ELO ranked teams (1 to 12 for #1s 13 to 24 for #2s and so on... to get to #192 which is part of the #16s) and each one of these groups s e l e c t a member to compete in this tournament: 16 teams, each representing that group of 12 to 13 people and they play in a single elimination tournament against each other for the crown! how about that? thoughts and do you think this is plausible (because it would be really fun ngl)

we could have it on Sundays or Wednesdays or Fridays... and the teams in that seed group based off of their ELO would decide their representative; income would be split in half so the further you go you make more stadium $$$ it could work...

here are the qualifications for a seed:

#1 seed (Global rank #1 to #12)

#2 seed (Global rank #13 to #24)

#3 seed (Global rank #25 to #36)

#4 seed (Global rank #37 to #48)

#5 seed (Global rank #49 to #60)

#6 seed (Global rank #61 to #72)

#7 seed (Global rank #73 to #84)

#8 seed (Global rank #85 to #96)

#9 seed (Global rank #97 to #108)

#10 seed (Global rank #109 to #120)

#11 seed (Global rank #121 to #132)

#12 seed (Global rank #133 to 144)

#13 seed (Global rank #145 to #156)

#14 seed (Global rank #157 to #168)

#15 seed (Global rank #169 to #181)

#16 seed (Global rank #182 to #193)

Each qualifying member of a seed votes or decides on their representative in the tournament, as a bonus the group members receive $2 million per win of their seed rank so even if your not making the $$$ by playing the games you still will benefit so the best teams will be picked as a result...


Your thoughts?
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posted: 2026-03-24 06:42:59 (ID: 100198700) Report Abuse
As written in my suggestion thread, where you posted this before.

The slightly shorter version, for the weekdays we have:

Mon. and Thur. Supercup with income.
Tues. and Sat. League with income.
Wed. and Sun. Friendlies, usually cups, with NO income, just for fun, and it generates income to RZA in credits,
Fri. is friendly day and COC with income.

If you take the regular season, the income for all teams are quite similar, except the sponsor income. The only exception is the CoC income, which is way higher than friendly income, and of course friendly income itself is only possible for a friendly set up. No friendly, no income.

With the playoffs, we get into the area where a team with deep runs earns more money, while the left behind can only earn some extra money on Tues. and Sat. on additional firendlies.

Your proposal does directly shift the scheduling and income balance we right now have. You would exchange a RZA credits income day for a managers income day. That doesn't sound right.

The second problem is, the deeper the team gets, the more it earns. So like playoff time.

With the highest seats most likely to advance against low seated teams, it means, likely the so called rich teams will get richer.

And as last comment on your suggestion, any system suggested should be flexibile to work with 200 teams, 100 teams, 50 teams, or 10000 teams.

In total I did not get your suggestion in detail, it seems not all teams do even participate, which I personally don't like at all.

But if so, you should decribe, how this should be handled and who decides what how?

Or do all teams participate? And how does this scale, if the number of teams increase? Does each seat widens?
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posted: 2026-03-24 09:37:44 (ID: 100198703) Report Abuse
I would prefer this kind of game on Day 71, which is the only Saturday of the schedule that have no official games. It could be an "ELO Bowl" between teams of the same ELO group. And a trophy could be added to team page. But I think it will never happen.

I agree with Jack. We must keep the economic balance of the game. We can not create new competitions with "regular games income". But that is a nice idea for a Friendly Cup.
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posted: 2026-03-24 11:23:48 (ID: 100198704)  Edits found: 1 Report Abuse
linkleo911 wrote:
I would prefer this kind of game on Day 71, which is the only Saturday of the schedule that have no official games. It could be an "ELO Bowl" between teams of the same ELO group. And a trophy could be added to team page. But I think it will never happen.

I agree with Jack. We must keep the economic balance of the game. We can not create new competitions with "regular games income". But that is a nice idea for a Friendly Cup.
problem is for a friendly cup there would be group games it would need to be 16 teams single elimination but I was thinking about that possibility; the offseason before the reset around that time could work perfectly

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posted: 2026-03-24 11:34:59 (ID: 100198705)  Edits found: 1 Report Abuse
jack6 wrote:
As written in my suggestion thread, where you posted this before.

The slightly shorter version, for the weekdays we have:

Mon. and Thur. Supercup with income.
Tues. and Sat. League with income.
Wed. and Sun. Friendlies, usually cups, with NO income, just for fun, and it generates income to RZA in credits,
Fri. is friendly day and COC with income.

If you take the regular season, the income for all teams are quite similar, except the sponsor income. The only exception is the CoC income, which is way higher than friendly income, and of course friendly income itself is only possible for a friendly set up. No friendly, no income.

With the playoffs, we get into the area where a team with deep runs earns more money, while the left behind can only earn some extra money on Tues. and Sat. on additional firendlies.

Your proposal does directly shift the scheduling and income balance we right now have. You would exchange a RZA credits income day for a managers income day. That doesn't sound right.

The second problem is, the deeper the team gets, the more it earns. So like playoff time.

With the highest seats most likely to advance against low seated teams, it means, likely the so called rich teams will get richer.

And as last comment on your suggestion, any system suggested should be flexibile to work with 200 teams, 100 teams, 50 teams, or 10000 teams.

In total I did not get your suggestion in detail, it seems not all teams do even participate, which I personally don't like at all.

But if so, you should decribe, how this should be handled and who decides what how?

Or do all teams participate? And how does this scale, if the number of teams increase? Does each seat widens?
ok so there will always be the #192 rank requirement unless the user total gets above 250 or 300, and it will shrink to 10 per seed pool if less than #192 to #160;

also there will be no stadium income; but rather a bonus for winning: everyone in the seed pool get $500,000 if their seed representative wins; the seed representative gets $750,000 if they win; also anyone who participates (represents the seed or part of the seed group) gets $500,000 anyway (to reward teams that may be bad or have no chance to win like 1 vs. 16);

The tournament would start on the Saturday day after COC cup; 2nd round Monday; 3rd round Wednesday (day 1 draft); and championship would be the next day Thursday (Draft day 2) to avoid conflict with friday friendly: does this schedule work?

and also if this tournament will get held the ELO rank on the Sunday of Bowl, Global Bowl, COC Champ will determine the seed pools: the teams must pick a representative that will represent their seed by Thursday; otherwise someone will decide for them; does this work? (also maybe I decide or someone else who wants to run it decides...)

and if no one wants to join In that seed pool (which would be crazy ngl because of great scheduling, extra income) then they forfeit that game...

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posted: 2026-03-24 11:38:42 (ID: 100198707) Report Abuse
and for some reason if you really dont like the $$$ stuff just make it for credits instead...
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posted: 2026-03-24 14:44:20 (ID: 100198708) Report Abuse
Man, you really need to work on your presentation skills.

If I did understand your suggestion correctly, the ELO list is put into groups, in your list 1-12 would be group one, 13-24 group 2 and so on.

Then somehow the group members, so let's take group one, 1-12, do decide, who will represent them in a playoff format tournament, having
group 1 rep vs group 16 rep
group 2 rep vs group 15 rep
and so on.
Then each winning team advances according to a fixed bracket and at the end, some group rep did win the whole stuff.

The group members do get money for just being there, the rep gets extra money for playing.

And that all should happen somewhere in the not so filled up period after rollover on some certain days to just have that tournament?

Did I get that right?

I can only speak for myself here, but I just don't like representive tournaments, whether it is ELO list, nations, regions, whatever.
If most managers just sit and watch, I don't like it.

Then, it's not given, that any team / manager will say YES from that ELO group to play. You say, forfeit the game, fine. But that's already an error on design, from my point of view.

And doing this for credits ... right now any friendly cup offer exceeding 16 teams is highly in risk to never play a game. There are just not enough teams willing to spend the credits and play in a 32 team tournament.
Fine, if it's only 16, this might work, but I doubt it.

And as said, if money comes out of it, it will just make this more inbalanced.
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posted: 2026-03-24 16:16:07 (ID: 100198710) Report Abuse
jack6 wrote:
Man, you really need to work on your presentation skills.

If I did understand your suggestion correctly, the ELO list is put into groups, in your list 1-12 would be group one, 13-24 group 2 and so on.

Then somehow the group members, so let's take group one, 1-12, do decide, who will represent them in a playoff format tournament, having
group 1 rep vs group 16 rep
group 2 rep vs group 15 rep
and so on.
Then each winning team advances according to a fixed bracket and at the end, some group rep did win the whole stuff.

The group members do get money for just being there, the rep gets extra money for playing.

And that all should happen somewhere in the not so filled up period after rollover on some certain days to just have that tournament?

Did I get that right?

I can only speak for myself here, but I just don't like representive tournaments, whether it is ELO list, nations, regions, whatever.
If most managers just sit and watch, I don't like it.

Then, it's not given, that any team / manager will say YES from that ELO group to play. You say, forfeit the game, fine. But that's already an error on design, from my point of view.

And doing this for credits ... right now any friendly cup offer exceeding 16 teams is highly in risk to never play a game. There are just not enough teams willing to spend the credits and play in a 32 team tournament.
Fine, if it's only 16, this might work, but I doubt it.

And as said, if money comes out of it, it will just make this more inbalanced.
well in order to clear up the representative/playing issue, they could all receive $600,000 and the rep could get 5 credits per win as a bonus for representing

I do acknowledge it'll make it more imbalanced, but RZA is already imbalanced, besides $500k to $600k isnt a lot of money for these teams as it adds up to around $2 to $2.5 million in total, 4 times less you make in a game with full stadium at home

And its a 16 team tournament not 32 its like March Madness but only one region...

Does that clear things up?
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posted: 2026-03-24 18:21:59 (ID: 100198713) Report Abuse
MacsUltraVideosYT wrote:
well in order to clear up the representative/playing issue, they could all receive $600,000 and the rep could get 5 credits per win as a bonus for representing

I do acknowledge it'll make it more imbalanced, but RZA is already imbalanced, besides $500k to $600k isnt a lot of money for these teams as it adds up to around $2 to $2.5 million in total, 4 times less you make in a game with full stadium at home

And its a 16 team tournament not 32 its like March Madness but only one region...

Does that clear things up?

The problem in general is not money on the representation issues.
Some managers just don't want to have something to do with other stuff beside their team. Hell, some don't even want to manage their own team.
So, if you make up a group of teams as fraction of RZA, it could be, none wants to participate in the this.

And as said, money bonus is bad for the balance, from my point of view.
Regardless the particular amount.

And even you did not confirm my summery, it seems from all teams, only 8 or 16 will play. For a volunteer thing, fine, for a RZA wide event, not OK, from my point of view.

And Credits are Peters currency. So, that's something he has to calculate.
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posted: 2026-03-24 18:27:09 (ID: 100198714)  Edits found: 1 Report Abuse
jack6 wrote:
MacsUltraVideosYT wrote:
well in order to clear up the representative/playing issue, they could all receive $600,000 and the rep could get 5 credits per win as a bonus for representing

I do acknowledge it'll make it more imbalanced, but RZA is already imbalanced, besides $500k to $600k isnt a lot of money for these teams as it adds up to around $2 to $2.5 million in total, 4 times less you make in a game with full stadium at home

And its a 16 team tournament not 32 its like March Madness but only one region...

Does that clear things up?

The problem in general is not money on the representation issues.
Some managers just don't want to have something to do with other stuff beside their team. Hell, some don't even want to manage their own team.
So, if you make up a group of teams as fraction of RZA, it could be, none wants to participate in the this.

And as said, money bonus is bad for the balance, from my point of view.
Regardless the particular amount.

And even you did not confirm my summery, it seems from all teams, only 8 or 16 will play. For a volunteer thing, fine, for a RZA wide event, not OK, from my point of view.

And Credits are Peters currency. So, that's something he has to calculate.
look there would be 16 teams and the problem is this would have to be created as an event by Pete because friendly cups have group stages and this wouldnt

also why wouldnt someone want to join I mean your gonna make more $$$...

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